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clarionreef · 12-30-2007, 06:54 PM

Hmm,
In the economy of scale that makes any enterprise such as this work, serious exporter and importer professionals have to be involved, interested and make money.
Thats simply the way our economy and society work. Indeed, without the exporters incentive and interest in starting the business from that side, there is little to talk about much futher as nothing would ever leave PNG without them.
Permits and fish export laws will not even go forth without a reasonable expactation of routine and growing commerce.
Breaking thru with the airlines on viable frieght rates is only possible beause of the promise of fairly routine frieght tonnage. A great deal of what importers import is based upon experience and understanding of what sells...the past week, the past month etc.
The 'collect to order' thing is only possible with modest outfits that can survive on niche marketing and small orders. The elite tastes that our hobby develops in some areas, is enabled by much, much greater commerce in the more general list of livestock from abroad.
In order to even see the really cool stuff, we have to move a lot of coral beauties, sleeper gobies, scooter blennies, lionfish etc.
To be sure, the market has many levels and sidebars. But it is the mass of the more predictable, commonly sold product that allows us the big opening to challenge and pressure the cyanide trades predominance in our industry.
We have to make it easier for consumers to choose clean, netcaught fish as the norm and that comes from giving them no other choice. In PNG cyanide fish or otherwise "improper items and unsustainable " will not be allowed to develop to confuse the w/ proper choices. Then finally people can choose "wisely" without even knowing that much about the subject.
We will not be dependant upon the consumers to drive sustainable practice.
Why delegate so much power to a marketplace that tolerated a cyanide trade for 40 years?
If they had their way, would they accept cyanide fishing in PNG as they did so nonchalantly in Bali?
No ...the grand marketplace will not be given the choice.
You know why?
Because unlike the current marketing situation in the Philippines and Indonesia,
there is no such thing as a "professional option" between sustainable choices or unsustainable ones....if it ain't sustainable we are all finished soon anyway!

Its time to buy the nets soon as the new trainings start within a month and we have to buy it and ship it still.
Sincerely, Steve

12-30-2007, 06:54 PM	#52
clarionreef Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 40 Reefer Ratings: (0) Friends: (0)	Hmm, In the economy of scale that makes any enterprise such as this work, serious exporter and importer professionals have to be involved, interested and make money. Thats simply the way our economy and society work. Indeed, without the exporters incentive and interest in starting the business from that side, there is little to talk about much futher as nothing would ever leave PNG without them. Permits and fish export laws will not even go forth without a reasonable expactation of routine and growing commerce. Breaking thru with the airlines on viable frieght rates is only possible beause of the promise of fairly routine frieght tonnage. A great deal of what importers import is based upon experience and understanding of what sells...the past week, the past month etc. The 'collect to order' thing is only possible with modest outfits that can survive on niche marketing and small orders. The elite tastes that our hobby develops in some areas, is enabled by much, much greater commerce in the more general list of livestock from abroad. In order to even see the really cool stuff, we have to move a lot of coral beauties, sleeper gobies, scooter blennies, lionfish etc. To be sure, the market has many levels and sidebars. But it is the mass of the more predictable, commonly sold product that allows us the big opening to challenge and pressure the cyanide trades predominance in our industry. We have to make it easier for consumers to choose clean, netcaught fish as the norm and that comes from giving them no other choice. In PNG cyanide fish or otherwise "improper items and unsustainable " will not be allowed to develop to confuse the w/ proper choices. Then finally people can choose "wisely" without even knowing that much about the subject. We will not be dependant upon the consumers to drive sustainable practice. Why delegate so much power to a marketplace that tolerated a cyanide trade for 40 years? If they had their way, would they accept cyanide fishing in PNG as they did so nonchalantly in Bali? No ...the grand marketplace will not be given the choice. You know why? Because unlike the current marketing situation in the Philippines and Indonesia, there is no such thing as a "professional option" between sustainable choices or unsustainable ones....if it ain't sustainable we are all finished soon anyway! Its time to buy the nets soon as the new trainings start within a month and we have to buy it and ship it still. Sincerely, Steve Last edited by clarionreef; 12-30-2007 at 07:42 PM.