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Old 03-01-2007, 11:09 AM   #11
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I'll try and find the link if I have a chance later but on the zeo forum an overksimming thread digressed into a chemistry conversation on wet vs. dry. For the sps keepers, overskimming wet was argued to be a very bad idea. Overskimming dry however, not bad.

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when overskimming you hit a point of efficiency, whereby everything that your skimmer can remove has been removed. No further DOC will be pulled, however trace elements will still come out most notably K. Unless you are ill with the 10% weekly water changes you will start down the road of trace element imbalance. How long it will take for that imbalance to get to proportions that will be detrimental depends. It could be weeks, months, maybe a year or so but you will get there.

When skimming dry you're not stripping the water as much of these elements. As Herm mentioned, and yes his word should be enough , you will get more wet than dry but you don't necessarily want to pull out the extra stuff.

Disclaimer: I am no chemist, in fact I didn't even do well in chemistry. All of the above was paraphrased from an article I read.

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Old 03-01-2007, 01:28 PM   #12
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i like to skim wet mainly because the neck stays clean and i fill the cup before the neck gets scummy enough to impede performance.

i am religious w/ 10 percent changes and the water change water usually just a bit higher in salinity to compensate. I also dose UltraOrganic to keep K and other trace elements in check since i use a zeolith system.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:35 PM   #13
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I skim pretty dry and I have been happy with the foul stench that emminates from my cabinet. I have a new Bubble King Mini 180 skimmer coming from Germany and plan to do the same (oh yeah) so I will post pics when I get it going. I hope it is worth the 1190.00 dollars it cost me shipped.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:47 PM   #14
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I'll try and find the link if I have a chance later but on the zeo forum an overksimming thread digressed into a chemistry conversation on wet vs. dry. For the sps keepers, overskimming wet was argued to be a very bad idea. Overskimming dry however, not bad.

The jist is that;
when overskimming you hit a point of efficiency, whereby everything that your skimmer can remove has been removed. No further DOC will be pulled, however trace elements will still come out most notably K. Unless you are ill with the 10% weekly water changes you will start down the road of trace element imbalance. How long it will take for that imbalance to get to proportions that will be detrimental depends. It could be weeks, months, maybe a year or so but you will get there.

When skimming dry you're not stripping the water as much of these elements. As Herm mentioned, and yes his word should be enough , you will get more wet than dry but you don't necessarily want to pull out the extra stuff.

Disclaimer: I am no chemist, in fact I didn't even do well in chemistry. All of the above was paraphrased from an article I read.

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I skim dry as hell for this exact reason. I do change tons of water though.
I was also under the impression that over skimming can remove things we may not want removed. I like the black stinky sludge. And water changes.
I don't like cleaning necks, but that the price I gotta pay.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:35 PM   #15
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super wet or super dry, I have no reason to believe that "stuff" necessary to coral health is removed from the water. I am trying to stay objective here, not taking sides. Can anyone show me some proof that too much wet skim removes something important from the water? I like skimming dry when I'm busy and wet when I am not

Show me a tank that is overskimmed, and I'll show you one that is underfed.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:51 PM   #16
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Hello Phil..
you are using a Mini Bubble King in the United States ? I am wondering... we never buy a 120 Volt/60 Hz Mini BK-Pumps for US-voltage ...

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:56 PM   #17
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Im no expert .But i read somewhere that skimming dry or wet is the same ,only diff is that you skim more water with wet skimming ,In reality you get the same amount of skimmate ,only one wet and one dry .

again this is what i read somewhere ,if im wrong ,then it wont be the 1st time

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Old 04-18-2007, 07:52 PM   #18
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Hey Klaus,

Just want to welcome you to Manhattan Reefs!

Damn, we must be doing something right. The man himself has joined our community!
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:56 PM   #19
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