sump dilema

drunktank · 08-11-2006, 12:36 PM

I can't seem to decide which sump design i like. Any opinions.

option one - lines from tank into sump + skimmer which flows into mag12 return which i T off into refugium

option two - lines from tank into sump then to refugium, then to skimmer + mag12 return

or option 3 , which I was thinking maybe no baffles at all?

need to decide today so i can call glass place and get them to cut baffles

vanceny · 08-11-2006, 12:41 PM

I'm using option 1 but with the drains split instead of the return. I'm using a smaller pump and don't want to lose the flow back into the tank. Also over-under-over baffle after the skimmer. You should be fine with 1 baffle after the fuge since it should be low flow.

**Chiefmcfuz** · 08-11-2006, 12:41 PM

I like number 2

drunktank · 08-11-2006, 12:44 PM

well since i have two over flows, i can do one into the skimmer and one into the refugium, having both those chambers empty into the return.?

inkblue · 08-11-2006, 12:46 PM

i do numBer 2

vanceny · 08-11-2006, 12:47 PM

Another observation is that with the pump feeding the fuge most of the nutrients would be already skimmed. Which I guess means less for the fuge to take care of.

drunktank · 08-11-2006, 01:12 PM

number two it is

scarf_ace1981 · 08-11-2006, 01:19 PM

my sump is like #2 except i have the return where your drain is and the drain where your return is. i don't see how all those baffles are effective when you have your skimmer in the same compartment as your return. aren't you gonna get microbubbles? that's why i keep my skimmer in the drain compartment

Aqua Pro Builder · 08-11-2006, 01:22 PM

In opting #2 why brother with over/under/over baffles?

Don't you wnat it after the skimmer to trap micro bubbles?

alrha · 08-11-2006, 01:25 PM

shouldnt you skim BEFORE the fuge? to avoid skimming out all the benefits of the fuge?
i would think Drain > Skim > Fuge > Return.
Fuge can also serve to release the bubbles from the skimmer.

08-11-2006, 12:36 PM	#1
drunktank My Name Is John! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 1,759 Reefer Ratings: (14) Friends: (1)	sump dilema I can't seem to decide which sump design i like. Any opinions. option one - lines from tank into sump + skimmer which flows into mag12 return which i T off into refugium option two - lines from tank into sump then to refugium, then to skimmer + mag12 return or option 3 , which I was thinking maybe no baffles at all? need to decide today so i can call glass place and get them to cut baffles __________________ DrUnKtAnK Jersey Side

08-11-2006, 12:41 PM	#3
Chiefmcfuz Big Nosed Lazy Reef Dummy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 11,792 Reefer Ratings: (21) Friends: (30)	I like number 2 __________________ Brendan Condo For Sale Northern Westchester Click here, My reef tank 24 gallon Aquapod

08-11-2006, 12:44 PM	#4
drunktank My Name Is John! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 1,759 Reefer Ratings: (14) Friends: (1)	well since i have two over flows, i can do one into the skimmer and one into the refugium, having both those chambers empty into the return.? __________________ DrUnKtAnK Jersey Side

08-11-2006, 01:12 PM	#7
drunktank My Name Is John! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 1,759 Reefer Ratings: (14) Friends: (1)	number two it is __________________ DrUnKtAnK Jersey Side

08-11-2006, 01:19 PM	#8
scarf_ace1981 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NYC Manhattan Posts: 4,856 Reefer Ratings: (67) Friends: (0)	my sump is like #2 except i have the return where your drain is and the drain where your return is. i don't see how all those baffles are effective when you have your skimmer in the same compartment as your return. aren't you gonna get microbubbles? that's why i keep my skimmer in the drain compartment __________________ Finch breeder

08-11-2006, 12:41 PM	#2
vanceny Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodside, Queens Posts: 800 Reefer Ratings: (15) Friends: (0)	I'm using option 1 but with the drains split instead of the return. I'm using a smaller pump and don't want to lose the flow back into the tank. Also over-under-over baffle after the skimmer. You should be fine with 1 baffle after the fuge since it should be low flow.

08-11-2006, 12:46 PM	#5
inkblue Muro Ami Captain Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Williamsburgh, Brooklyn Posts: 7,766 Reefer Ratings: (86) Friends: (20)	i do numBer 2

08-11-2006, 12:47 PM	#6
vanceny Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodside, Queens Posts: 800 Reefer Ratings: (15) Friends: (0)	Another observation is that with the pump feeding the fuge most of the nutrients would be already skimmed. Which I guess means less for the fuge to take care of.

08-11-2006, 01:22 PM	#9
Aqua Pro Builder Vendor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Flushing NY 11355 Posts: 4,737 Reefer Ratings: (75) Friends: (22)	In opting #2 why brother with over/under/over baffles? Don't you wnat it after the skimmer to trap micro bubbles?

08-11-2006, 01:25 PM	#10
alrha ... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manhattan Beach, Brooklyn Posts: 4,265 Reefer Ratings: (51) Friends: (0)	shouldnt you skim BEFORE the fuge? to avoid skimming out all the benefits of the fuge? i would think Drain > Skim > Fuge > Return. Fuge can also serve to release the bubbles from the skimmer. __________________ - Albert

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