Vendor Rules - Page 3

SlamaJama · 06-14-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterswimmer


	Admins, mods, obviously very carefully planned and well thought out. Seems like an equitable arrangement for all. Thanks for all the effort. Russ

nuthin like

some

but

...j/k russ

masterswimmer · 06-14-2006, 01:35 PM

Come on Mike. All kidding aside. Things were getting out of hand. MR could have done nothing. They took the high road, hashed things out and came up with something that appears to be workable for everyone.

Left unaddressed this would have become like Dodge City in the old wild west.
No matter what arrangement they put together, it would not be possible to make everyone happy. I think this is a good happy medium.

Call it

if you like, I like to call it amicable and fair.

R

BTW:

Chiefmcfuz · 06-14-2006, 01:36 PM

Solbby, the point is we have some people here who haven't been in the hobby long enough to know what their doing with their own tank let alone sell livestock to other people, but they made themselves vendors and sell alot of stock. Some might have only had a tank for a month or 2 (not even) and started being vendors, this I see as a problem. I know alot of other do as well. If this discourages people from these actions I say great.

As far as the mods, they do a great job helping with the problems here but if someone gets ripped off it becomes a legal matter and the mods, who share absolutely no responsibility for any fault, need to be able to refer someone when they have a problem that can't be resolved internally.

ShaunW · 06-14-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefmcfuz


	Solbby, the point is we have some people here who haven't been in the hobby long enough to know what their doing with their own tank let alone sell livestock to other people, but they made themselves vendors and sell alot of stock. Some might have only had a tank for a month or 2 (not even) and started being vendors, this I see as a problem. I know alot of other do as well. If this discourages people from these actions I say great.

Trust me I am one of the people that sees this as a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefmcfuz


	As far as the mods, they do a great job helping with the problems here but if someone gets ripped off it becomes a legal matter and the mods, who share absolutely no responsibility for any fault, need to be able to refer someone when they have a problem that can't be resolved internally.

In what way would this be a legal matter for MR? I ask because I would like to know, i.e. become more informed since already we have been threatened with lawsuits. So what legal basis do people actually have to sue?!

Additionally, ripping someone off is a big deal for a vendor, and if it actually does happen their status as a vendor here would end quickly.

SlamaJama · 06-14-2006, 01:47 PM

i agree russ, i actualy knew things were in the works and i was just waiting for the results.
i happen to agree with jim and michael, u can give responsible info to a client/customer, if they dont take it its there fault, but i believe we should all be kept on a higher standard, can only make this site and hobby better. good yes, but far enough i dont know...equal to all, then no greys areas.
i luv the new suggestions, but since we r doing it, lets not get wishy washy either and put a good thing into a wider spectrum.
j/k russ....

Chiefmcfuz · 06-14-2006, 01:48 PM

Not a MR legal matter but between the vendor and the buyer. I know the way I wrote it sounded that way sorry.

The Internet fraud complaint center resolves issues for internet transactions and is a great external mediation agency. What I am saying is after we all try to work things out here if they don't work to one party's satisfaction persay MR should have an out and refer people to another agency. Is that more clear now.

ShaunW · 06-14-2006, 01:55 PM

Oh, now I understand,

.

Well, it is the buyers choice to use an individual vendor to purchase items, so they must take some responsibility.

We are going to have individual vendor forums. Those vendors that have those forums come MR recommended, in that they contribute to the site and are making it better. So the "fly-by-night" vendors won't be so prominant anymore on this site. They will still be able to sell here but without the MR stamp of approval, so the buyer must beware.

House of Laughter · 06-14-2006, 02:01 PM

Not to mention degredates thier reputation here on MR, which we know, is a very criticial community - we have also experienced that as well.

House

Quote:

Originally Posted by solbby


	Additionally, ripping someone off is a big deal for a vendor, and if it actually does happen their status as a vendor here would end quickly.

Tonyscoots84 · 06-14-2006, 02:08 PM

on that note great job mods and admin... i am hoping that this does take care of the problems we were facing... it was becoming rather annoying but anyways reef on guys... and again great job guys...

michael stern · 06-14-2006, 02:14 PM

At the risk of starting a war (which, believe me, is not my intent),
"You will not sell diseased, sick, dying, bleached or dyed livestock."
How does this work with people who are simply ordering for people, and then resell the items, unopened, unquarenteened, not eating, etc. I don't have any problem with this practice, as long as customers know what they are getting. But how can vendors have any knowledge of livestock health and viability if they only have it a couple of hours.

In general though, I think this system should work much better.

Thanks for all the efforts

06-14-2006, 01:36 PM	#23
Chiefmcfuz Big Nosed Lazy Reef Dummy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 11,205 Reefer Ratings: (21) Friends: (28)	Solbby, the point is we have some people here who haven't been in the hobby long enough to know what their doing with their own tank let alone sell livestock to other people, but they made themselves vendors and sell alot of stock. Some might have only had a tank for a month or 2 (not even) and started being vendors, this I see as a problem. I know alot of other do as well. If this discourages people from these actions I say great. As far as the mods, they do a great job helping with the problems here but if someone gets ripped off it becomes a legal matter and the mods, who share absolutely no responsibility for any fault, need to be able to refer someone when they have a problem that can't be resolved internally. __________________ Brendan DOWN WITH THE RGLMJ! Support MR Members, Vendors, and Sponsors! My reef tank 24 gallon Aquapod

06-14-2006, 01:47 PM	#25
SlamaJama Reefers Suck Hose... Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 3,634 Reefer Ratings: (102) Friends: (0)	i agree russ, i actualy knew things were in the works and i was just waiting for the results. i happen to agree with jim and michael, u can give responsible info to a client/customer, if they dont take it its there fault, but i believe we should all be kept on a higher standard, can only make this site and hobby better. good yes, but far enough i dont know...equal to all, then no greys areas. i luv the new suggestions, but since we r doing it, lets not get wishy washy either and put a good thing into a wider spectrum. j/k russ.... __________________ [CENTER][B][I]When bullies rise up, you must beat them back down, whatever the cost...[/I][/B][/CENTER]

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06-14-2006, 02:14 PM	#30
michael stern Vendor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: new rochelle Posts: 2,941 Reefer Ratings: (67) Friends: (0)	At the risk of starting a war (which, believe me, is not my intent), "You will not sell diseased, sick, dying, bleached or dyed livestock." How does this work with people who are simply ordering for people, and then resell the items, unopened, unquarenteened, not eating, etc. I don't have any problem with this practice, as long as customers know what they are getting. But how can vendors have any knowledge of livestock health and viability if they only have it a couple of hours. In general though, I think this system should work much better. Thanks for all the efforts