[cisco1717]

kathy c said they do but my ? is: After you take out all the fishes and qt them in a separte tank what happens to the ich in the display tank with the corals & inverts. will ich die out, can they survive in Live rocks and sand or do they really need a host to live.

[D1J8Z]

Any healthy fish will be able to fight ich, consider it a common cold. If your loosing fish do to ich consider your system unstable or maybe try a new LFS.

[cisco1717]

i just looked at the link that kathy c was so kind to show. very informative and just as i thought, like a person you dont get a disease or parsite unless u contracted it from someone or somewhere. And am no expert but fluctation in temp or bad h2o parameters do not create parasites it just weaken the immune system which can make you ill

[D1J8Z]

Quote: Originally Posted by cisco1717 And am no expert but fluctuation in temp or bad h2o parameters do not create parasites it just weaken the immune system which can make you ill

[ClosetFishGeek]

Quote: Originally Posted by yourbedormine18 Any healthy fish will be able to fight ich, consider it a common cold. If your loosing fish do to ich consider your system unstable or maybe try a new LFS.

So true....

[marrone]

Quote: Originally Posted by yourbedormine18 Any healthy fish will be able to fight ich, consider it a common cold. If your loosing fish do to ich consider your system unstable or maybe try a new LFS.

Quote: Originally Posted by ClosetFishGeek So true....

I wouldn't equate ich to the common cold. Plenty healthy fish get ich, and unless treated, die from it. Remeber even if the fish is able to fight it off, basically live with the ich, there is still ich in your system which can overwhelm a fish at some point in time, especially if it's stressed out, injuried or harrassed.

Just because you lose a fish, or a bunch of fish, to ich doesn't mean your system is unstable or your fish aren't healthy. Many people have introduced ich into their system, whether through an infected fish or LR, and have lost fish from it. There are also strains of ich that kills pretty fast, matter of fact there was a strain going around about a year ago that wipe out a lot of people fish.

[D1J8Z]

http://www.bestfish.com/saltich.html


"saltwater fish have a number of natural defenses against ich, and if the fish are healthy enough and the outbreak mild enough, sometimes the fish may cure themselves, just as they would in nature."

and yes anyone can google

[D1J8Z]

Quote: Originally Posted by marrone I wouldn't equate ich to the common cold. Plenty healthy fish get ich, and unless treated, die from it. Remeber even if the fish is able to fight it off, basically live with the ich, there is still ich in your system which can overwhelm a fish at some point in time, especially if it's stressed out, injured or harassed. Just because you lose a fish, or a bunch of fish, to ich doesn't mean your system is unstable or your fish aren't healthy. Many people have introduced ich into their system, whether through an infected fish or LR, and have lost fish from it. There are also strains of ich that kills pretty fast, matter of fact there was a strain going around about a year ago that wipe out a lot of people fish.

Any fish being stressed out,injured or harassed is at a high risk of death with or without ich. If the same fish with ich was not being picked on there is a good chance that fish can properly fight the disease providing high water quality including stable temperature, adequate shelter, and nutrition

[juiceguy]

from what i understand about ich is that all fish carry the parasite, it is when the fish is stressed out and its immune system is weaken that it manifests itself. usual causes are large temp swings and water parameters.

[aquagardener]

I've been in the hobby for about 3 years now (not counting many years of freshwater aquariums before moving into saltwater). I've done the dance with ich many times, just about always equated with adding someone new to the tank and sometimes just from the stress of switching tanks. Anyhow, I've come across a product that helps to get rid of it quick (as long as you treat at the first signs of it). I have a tank full of soft coral and this stuff doesn't hurt any of them. It is called Marine Max from a company called Tropical Science. It's worth having on hand just in case... I also use it when I do water changes... (and no, I don't own stock in the company or get any kind of kickbacks!)