[spykes]

perice the ehiem i tested on the ap702 drawed in 15lpm while the aquabee was drawing in 10lpm steady. 38watts is only when it's fully pumping water. On my OR2700 it was using 27watts with 10LPM. 2eheim vs 3 aquabees almost around the same range of air intake. DAS lately we have been getting are the rejects IMO. DAS probably stop producing these things and this is whatever left over stock LOL.

steve's older BX3 came with cell cast acrylic and the craftmenship is great.

Quote: Originally Posted by cali_reef Dave, First, I don't think the DAS 2000/1 pumps are pulling that kind of air you are talking about, I bought some air gages and would hook them up if the damn thing is ready to run. The pump draws much less wattage than spec, that tells me the pin wheel is too light for the magnet\coil, which would mean slowing down when water and air are being sucked it. Two. The craftsmanship sucks, remember the picture of the first DAS I got? I don't think the people putting them together in Texas have a brain, let along any skill. Three. they use extruded acrylic for the body which is way too fragile for our use. They also use the un-finish side of black ABS as the collection cup cover top side, and the nicer finish is never seen, what a stupid thing to do. If I want a poorly glued skimmer body I would just get another Chinese made BK copy for $300, not $800 for a supposedly great skimmer and deal with a vendor\manufacture that have poor service. For another $330 (retail price on Deltec) you can get a AP851 and be happy with it.

[cali_reef]

Quote: Originally Posted by spykes perice the ehiem i tested on the ap702 drawed in 15lpm while the aquabee was drawing in 10lpm steady.

I need to test this for my self but its hard for me to believe that after seeing Warren's AP600 and my own AP701. But in any case how do you know the DAS pump is identical as the Aquabees? I have never put the two side by side but I know even H&S sells the Aquabee for a lot more than the DAS pump.

Quote: Originally Posted by spykes 2eheim vs 3 aquabees almost around the same range of air intake.

No way!! I will test that for my self. In any case the AP702(the smallest model with two Eheims) has a 10" body and the EX-3 is a 8" body, no way they perform the same.

Quote: Originally Posted by spykes DAS lately we have been getting are the rejects IMO. DAS probably stop producing these things and this is whatever left over stock LOL.

I didn't get that impression from the few conversations I had with the two brothers that either owns or managed the stores. They told me they wanted to have the tilted skimmer to show their shop manager how mess up they did and I know they are still building store fixtures for other LFS. I will ask them if they ever call back .

[jhale]

cali you should have taken that spare part from me, I can't find it now.

my DAS is doing great,

[rickytsui]

jonathan how many day does it take to make that much skimate ?

[jhale]

it depends, that's about 2-3 days.

[pecan2phat]

Quote: Originally Posted by regal For me, I'll need a AP702 for my 500g system. Where do people get their deltec from in NY?

regal,
I don't think the AP702 would even be sufficient for your system of 500g. You need to move up to an AP902 or AP703 if height is a concern.

I run an AP702 on 220g of volume and I don't think it's overskimming.

[spykes]

Quote: Originally Posted by cali_reef I need to test this for my self but its hard for me to believe that after seeing Warren's AP600 and my own AP701. But in any case how do you know the DAS pump is identical as the Aquabees? I have never put the two side by side but I know even H&S sells the Aquabee for a lot more than the DAS pump. No way!! I will test that for my self. In any case the AP702(the smallest model with two Eheims) has a 10" body and the EX-3 is a 8" body, no way they perform the same. I didn't get that impression from the few conversations I had with the two brothers that either owns or managed the stores. They told me they wanted to have the tilted skimmer to show their shop manager how mess up they did and I know they are still building store fixtures for other LFS. I will ask them if they ever call back .

i guess your right on the skimmer body size but the ap600 with aquabee 2000 is very diffrent from apf600 which has 2000/1. 2000/1 has more head ft pressure. the impeller spins faster i guess. I have no idea how they run the store but who builds tilted skimmers. I mean they made how many good ones again? i dont think petorama builds them but you may be right. Im just listening to a bunch of friends.

[regal]

Quote: Originally Posted by pecan2phat regal, I don't think the AP702 would even be sufficient for your system of 500g. You need to move up to an AP902 or AP703 if height is a concern. I run an AP702 on 220g of volume and I don't think it's overskimming.

Where did you get yours from?

[jhale]

if there was a way to add a wet neck to the DAS that would be a great mod.
I wonder if the deltec ones would fit?

[pecan2phat]

Quote: Originally Posted by regal Where did you get yours from?

Daceman, Bronx House Of Fish.