[ellebelle]

Damn. I was in a bar when I was watching the news about the mitchell report and the closed captioning wasn't on. Maybe that was a list of people who WEREN'T on the list.

Brendan, I said the exact same thing. They do a lot of testing on football players, but I would love to see more testing on basketball and hockey players. I would guess that it's pretty rampant among hockey players.

I'm surprised that the players union didn't insist on testing before this. I would think that the players NOT taking steroids would be in favor of drug testing as it gives such an unfair advantage to those taking it. It's gotten to the point in baseball where, if you're going to make it, you HAVE to take steroids and that is just not right.

[DrGonzo]

I think that the list of players on the report doesn't even scratch the surface of all the player who have used some sort of performance enhancing substances.

[marrone]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chiefmcfuz Lets just hope they don't stop at baseball and move on to other sports. Time to tell our kids "IDOLS" that we aren't gonna take any Cr@p from them anymore.

If they did "real" testing in football there would be nobody left to play. Almost every play is taking something, from steroids to pain killers and it's not only on the pro level, it goes all the way down to the HS level.

[alfani]

the list is a joke, it's only scratching the surface. spending millions of dollars and only got a couple of descent players. 70% of the players are juiced

[nycmat]

the whole report is the equivelant as to say " there was only 1 gunman, lee harvey oswald"

LOL

wait a minute hockey and basketball are sports here? J/K

[Chongpark27]

This is going to bring a dark cloud over baseball. Now pettite admits he did take hgh,which gives more validity to this list.

[masterswimmer]

Pettitte did the HGH for two shots for a shoulder injury. I think that will add validity to the report as well.

[Timbo]

the reality is that performance enhancing drugs are a part of sports these days. the only way to stop it from happening is random frequent testing. only problem is that no players would be left in the end regardless of the sport.

[loismustdie]

I don't think the question is validity but more of what was the point? There weren't any surprises on there. The only shocking thing were the names left off. How many tax payer dollars were wasted on this?

In Pettite's case... anyone here know enough about the topic that would tell us more info about "2 shots"? How much exactly is 2 shots? How often are shots taken? One a day, one a week?
My limited knowledge of HGH is that it is a wonder drug. Exceptionally expensive, steroid like results without the negative side effects, and most of all, fantastic recovery time for everything from injury to chemotherapy. I believe it is $1500 per cycle and it is recommended that you do 1 and a half to 2 cycles at a time. I don't know exactly how long a cycle is (I think 5 to 6 weeks is a common cycle for other steroids), how many shots are required or how much is used.

What are your opinions on how these players and how their statistics go down in history? The stats are obviously askew, but if everyone was doing it, who really had the advantage?

[jaymo]

Who wants to see regular people play sports ? I want to see super human freaks smash homeruns and throw 80 yard rocket pases . You got to love thoes roid ragin freaks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!