I just published this book. "The Avant-Garde Marine Aquarist" It has absolutely no scientific studies or more than a couple of scientific references so it is all anecdotal and not meant to be read by anyone who needs a scientist to tell him how to run a tank. Of course it is full of pictures which to me are proof of diet and care of a reef tank, but again anecdotal. I only wrote it because, being I have the oldest tank on here, and maybe in America (but not as old as the Steinhart Aquarium) I figured I had a few things to share before I get to old to spell anecdotal.
I also know about Thiel (he is actually a friend of mine) Martin Moe, who started the same time as me, maybe the same week, as did Dr Schmick. Bob Goemens is also a friend of mine and has been to my home and although I know and met Sanjo, I don't really know him that well. Nice guy though. Have a great discussion, but whatever you do, don't read my book. :biggrin:
Before I read this thread I thought a knew at least a couple of things, now I realize I know nothing except anecdotes. My life is over. Anecdotally speaking.
OK I will. I am not trying to sell the book, it sells very well without that.
I can post a picture of my tank as it seems I am the only one posting any pictures. I don't see your tank or anything you did except have a job at a public aquarium.
As for Dr Shimek, I know all about him and disagree with his work on DSBs. But of course that is just my opinion. I also do not bash science. I actually love science.
I just think reading about someone else's scientific studies and running a reef tank on that is silly.
Virtually everything I have ever written was published, right or not with no checking on my experience. Either on a forum or a real magazine with no proof what so ever.
As I said many times, I can prove what I have done.
You seem very young and I still have not seen any pictures of anything spawning in "your" tank in your home. I also don't know how long you have kept anything.
All you seem to be doing is telling everyone they are wrong even though there is an awfully lot of talent on this thread.
Boomer and the Doc are very knowledgeable guys
I know what the tank in the public aquariums look like, but they are not your tank, and nothing in there was your doing.
Now you can bash my tank and tell me everything that is wrong with it. It is not photoshoped like many pictures on these forums so the colors are not garish and fake. The tank has gone through many changes and now I am trying to go for more sponges and gorgonians. Of course I never believe it is the nicest tank on here and it is not supposed to be. It is supposed to be how I want it to look.
This tank has been running with no crashes or quarantining since 1971.
As for my ignorance I also have one aquarium related United States utility Patents (US Patent #8,555,543 B2) And a provisional patent. I was also a combat Sargent in Viet Nam and a General Foreman construction electrician in Manhattan for 40 years. I have been attending schools all my life, just nothing I would call college.
What did you do for this hobby?
As you have once stated: ?I have always insisted throughout the many editorials I wrote that we present to the public information that is more than the smoke from somebody?s opinion pipe or simple anecdotal observations, but information rather that was quantifiable, repeatable, and scientifically accurate. Creatures that we keep in our reef aquariums deserve no less.?
However, and very respectfully, you may not be viewing all this info from the eyes of the average hobbyist such as myself. In having a 29 gal biocube and seeing how dedicated one has to be just to keep this little thing going it is quite an achievement and very much an inspiration, I think to most average hobbyists, to see Paul's longtime dedication and success in the hobby and he is good enough to stick his neck out there and share his experiences and love of the hobby with us. And never once has Paul tried to sell us a blackworm or a clam.
It is just as inspirational to see someone like yourself who has dedicated a lifetime to get us to use scientific accurate info, cut through the bull so we can be successful in the hobby. I can only imagine it might even be tough to share info with the average hobbyist in the sense that you spent so much time to gain the knowledge you have and to simply throw it out there for us to "use". It's a catch 22 I guess because if you envision a broad sustainable hobby what else is there to do but to share? Otherwise the hobby will only be for a select few. I can take up golfing, no prob.
As opposed to making the argument about anecdotal evidence with Paul. I think it would be so cool to say to Paul "you know with all 40 yrs plus of using those blackworms we would like to consider studying this further in a controlled environment and see if you are on to something that can be applied across the board". After all, you did mention how anecdotal evidence can help real research. Doesn't get more anecdotal than 40 yrs of feeding the same thing with great success.....seriously. Let's face it , Paul in a sense is filling a void due to a lack of research in this area that the average hobbyist can absorb.
And "if creatures in our aquariums deserve no less" it is maybe correct but in reality our hobby is so tiny and insignificant to warrant making this sort of statement. I travel to China quite often...there is more fish in 1 evening in fish tanks that people select from to eat more than than any major LFS has in a month! It blows me away every time, the quantity, the beauty, the variety..... and there are thousands of these restaurants. Jacque Cousteau himself has not laid eyes on half these creatures they are about to ingest! I go to Thailand too....same deal. Nice thought to treat our creatures well...but better served to make these statements somewhere else where it can make a real impact to save our reefs in my opinion
Until someone can prove him wrong I think he's onto something and further scientific research would be great.
Thanks for sharing some info and thoughts
Was wondering if anyone has any info on the nutritional value of blackworms as it relates to feeding fish versus other foods that we use? Could be good info to help make a determination whether to try or not that is reliable as opposed to googling?