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Old 12-12-2010, 01:02 PM
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and here will go people he is trying to help
yes if you an ati fixure it will be close so easy up boys and girl
thanks rick

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Old 12-12-2010, 01:11 PM
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wow cool post rick!
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ok here is another part of it using a different ballast

Originally Posted by The Grim Reefer
OK, Here's the latest readings taken with the lamps running on a triad ballast. The numbers are only good for comparison here. Previous readings I took were with a different ballast and reflector so don't try to compare the two.

ATI

Sun Pro 357
Aquablue 336
Blue Plus 311
Actinic 137

D&D/Giesemann

Midday 325
Aquablue 324
Actinic Plus 264
Pure Actinic 157

AquaZ

Sun Pro 285
Ocean Pro 323
Blue Pro 266

Helios

Daylight 309
Super Blue 225

Current Sun Paq

Daylight 10K 272
Blue 252

GE Daylight 340


From what i have read in numerous posts and tests the par number for the kz line is as follows:

-New gen is 330 a true 15,000k bulb that burns into a little whiter after 6 months
-coral light was 343 the highest par of any t5 bulb i have seen but a bit yellower then the aquablue from ati (10,000k)
-superblue ia 310-320 about the exact same as the ati blue plus and look pretty similar (20,000k)
-fiji purple is 325

Again depending on the fixture used the age of the bulb and test variables its going to varry but the kz bulbs have been proven to have the around the same par as ATI.
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In a growth test done on reef builders aqua science t5's had signifcantly better growth and color then ati.

-Aqua science 15,000k (more like 11,000k) is about the same as an aqua blue or kz coral light
- Aqua science 17,500k duo (is more like 15,000k with a tiny bit of visble red/pink to it) par is around 320
-Aqua science 22,000k is just like the ati blue plus or the kz super blue but maybe a tiny bit more blue to it but not much of a difference at all. par is around 320 as well.
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great thread, nice info... He specifically mentioned that these # would vary, but it does give a good estimate...
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good info here...sticky thread!
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ok i will start with a few of the fixture's i have owned. btw i have been using t5's about 5 of the 6 year's i have been in the hobby.
first was a retro sunlight supply kit with total of 6 bulb's, this worked very well for me, was pretty easy to wire and mount, dislike was there is no type of shield ect so reflectors got salt splash and corroded somewhat. all of these fixture's have been 36" and have been inside a canopy, but i do have alot of ventilation in my canopies as well as 2 4" 125 cfm fans

next was a icecap retro with a 660 running 4 bulbs and a 430 running 2 bulbs. loved the brightness of this, same as pretty easy to mount and wire. dislike was once again no splash shield and with over driving the bulbs the life span was shortened {btw even though you can use the 660 and 430 these were not designed for t5's but for vho's }

next was a current nep 6 bulb, well being this was my first real t5 fixture i loved it at first, but was no where near as bright as my previous 2 fixture's, dislike, not true individual reflectors and just wasnt as bright as previous lighting { given ic was over driven }

next was a tek 8 bulb fixture. this one i really liked, i had even added 2 fans into the top of it to help with cooling, really had no dislikes, wish the elite was around then so i didnt have to add the fan's

next was my ati sunpower 6 bulb fixture, this one i really really liked, fiixture itsself was very nice looking and built well and was as bright as my 8 bulb tek fixture.

and last but not least and is my current fixture and last unless i go led's again is my ati 8 bulb powermodule. well what can i say, built like a tank, very nice looking fixture and bright as heck the 4 fans keep the fixture in a proper range of operation temp wise. this has by far been the best t5 lighting system i have owned, the body aluminum which would almost make you think it is light but is is far from that.

i know people have different view as why to go with t5's or not too, but here is why i have always went back, i have had pc, mh and leds.
i love being able to have a wide variety of bulbs and temps to choose from, being able to get most of the color temps is nice as well as there is no shading in my tank ect directly under some rocks, with not having the spot light effect of my or led it allows for light spill through out the tank. does help tank run cooler { will go into this a little more later } my electrical saving is nice as compared to 2 250w mh and supplimental lighting.

ok will add more to this later
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Yo I didnt mean to be an *** about it , I was just wondering where in the tank the numbers where taken. Im sorry if I offended anyone. It definately a great post and I vote for stickey as well!!!
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wasn't taken inside of tank, these are dry numbers from my understanding, in tank sure there would be other factors added, someone with heavy top flow would give erradict numbers as the water movement ect
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What did you end up going with? T5's or leds?

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Rick thank you for taking the time to put this together, still trying to figure out if I want to go T5 or Led for my build
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