What happened to www.liveaquaria.com
- Thread starter Money Pit
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In response to the "cornering up the market" issue, yes, they are the one's that bought up several online livestock retailers and turned them into OVERPRICED livestock retailers. Anyone remember ffexpress????? Not bashing, just an OPINION... there is a difference!
clarionreef
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Guys,
To know exactly they they pulled out is to be found over on the Industry behind the hobby section.
They drop-ship out of Quality Marine, a MAC certified importer that has virtually no certified netcaught fish...[ because they hardly exist] especially when compared to all the fish they bring in.
All the reform talk about sustainability and responsible practices and anti cyanide discussion over there must've gotten to them.
They offered money to AMDA to buy validation and were turned down...on principal and because of their stabbing of retailers in the back all over America.
Futhermore we returned their membership check.
This trade needs to clean it self up and the white-wash of an e-mail product thru a so-called certified wholesaler runs counter to that higher, nobler agenda.
We barred them from AMDA and they now pull out from RDO. Good riddance.
Click on over there and see whats going on. This trade is bigger then the interests of a few corporate money pots and they need to see that the world does not revolve around them.
Steve
To know exactly they they pulled out is to be found over on the Industry behind the hobby section.
They drop-ship out of Quality Marine, a MAC certified importer that has virtually no certified netcaught fish...[ because they hardly exist] especially when compared to all the fish they bring in.
All the reform talk about sustainability and responsible practices and anti cyanide discussion over there must've gotten to them.
They offered money to AMDA to buy validation and were turned down...on principal and because of their stabbing of retailers in the back all over America.
Futhermore we returned their membership check.
This trade needs to clean it self up and the white-wash of an e-mail product thru a so-called certified wholesaler runs counter to that higher, nobler agenda.
We barred them from AMDA and they now pull out from RDO. Good riddance.
Click on over there and see whats going on. This trade is bigger then the interests of a few corporate money pots and they need to see that the world does not revolve around them.
Steve
The reason I brought it up is they are still sponsors at Reefcentral.com and yet they pulled out here, just curious. Len I will take your advice and send an email and ask them why. Cortez marine, I will pass along the information that you have provided us with and ask for a comment. Do you mind if I quote you?
"Guys,
To know exactly they they pulled out is to be found over on the Industry behind the hobby section.
They drop-ship out of Quality Marine, a MAC certified importer that has virtually no certified netcaught fish...[ because they hardly exist] especially when compared to all the fish they bring in.
All the reform talk about sustainability and responsible practices and anti cyanide discussion over there must've gotten to them.
They offered money to AMDA to buy validation and were turned down...on principal and because of their stabbing of retailers in the back all over America.
Futhermore we returned their membership check.
This trade needs to clean it self up and the white-wash of an e-mail product thru a so-called certified wholesaler runs counter to that higher, nobler agenda.
We barred them from AMDA and they now pull out from RDO. Good riddance.
Click on over there and see whats going on. This trade is bigger then the interests of a few corporate money pots and they need to see that the world does not revolve around them.
Steve"
"Guys,
To know exactly they they pulled out is to be found over on the Industry behind the hobby section.
They drop-ship out of Quality Marine, a MAC certified importer that has virtually no certified netcaught fish...[ because they hardly exist] especially when compared to all the fish they bring in.
All the reform talk about sustainability and responsible practices and anti cyanide discussion over there must've gotten to them.
They offered money to AMDA to buy validation and were turned down...on principal and because of their stabbing of retailers in the back all over America.
Futhermore we returned their membership check.
This trade needs to clean it self up and the white-wash of an e-mail product thru a so-called certified wholesaler runs counter to that higher, nobler agenda.
We barred them from AMDA and they now pull out from RDO. Good riddance.
Click on over there and see whats going on. This trade is bigger then the interests of a few corporate money pots and they need to see that the world does not revolve around them.
Steve"
I have quite a saga in the one order that I ever placed with them. I would never order anything from them ever again. I would honestly rather pay twice as much then deal with them again. Business practices and customer service suck. I am glasd that other people seem to have had better luck with them. :roll:
clarionreef
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- San Francisco
My Lord,
The entire trade from the S.E.Asian zones fish practices are what is the question here.
The Indo/Philippine lack of reform translates into an American lack of reform...witting or not.
Think of it like the cocaine dilemna.
'We here at your organic cocaine import facility strive to bring you the cleanest cocaine possible with no corruption of government or culture involved, no exploitation, no murders, no smuggling and no bad stuff in general. So...we have decided to buy our fish...er cocaine from a dealer who certifies that his FACILITY is clean and Kosher.
Along comes our drop-shipping fish heroes and they just plug-in to that nonsense...and market it on the net.
The fish are not clean and the dropshipping trick straight from a major importers facility makes it dirtier.
If this is the way it will work in the future, ie. killing off the retail storefronts and ordering from a computer screen then reformers of the trade are in trouble. Just as we start to pinpoint responsibility and zero in on clean chains of fish delivery...this methodology threatens to water it down and demoralize us all. Jumping the gun and cashing in on cheaper, responsibly collected fish" when in fact they are still the same ol cyanide fish. Netcaught fish are still small in number from Asia and there is not enough to feed the conventional trade, let alone an internet parasite that seeks to grab it all...or whitewash it all.
Internet companies should contribute to reforms in motion. Not just try to cash in prematurely.
Marketing cyanide fish [ laundered thru the white labcoat schtick ]over the internet is just not something we should get behind.
Steve
The entire trade from the S.E.Asian zones fish practices are what is the question here.
The Indo/Philippine lack of reform translates into an American lack of reform...witting or not.
Think of it like the cocaine dilemna.
'We here at your organic cocaine import facility strive to bring you the cleanest cocaine possible with no corruption of government or culture involved, no exploitation, no murders, no smuggling and no bad stuff in general. So...we have decided to buy our fish...er cocaine from a dealer who certifies that his FACILITY is clean and Kosher.
Along comes our drop-shipping fish heroes and they just plug-in to that nonsense...and market it on the net.
The fish are not clean and the dropshipping trick straight from a major importers facility makes it dirtier.
If this is the way it will work in the future, ie. killing off the retail storefronts and ordering from a computer screen then reformers of the trade are in trouble. Just as we start to pinpoint responsibility and zero in on clean chains of fish delivery...this methodology threatens to water it down and demoralize us all. Jumping the gun and cashing in on cheaper, responsibly collected fish" when in fact they are still the same ol cyanide fish. Netcaught fish are still small in number from Asia and there is not enough to feed the conventional trade, let alone an internet parasite that seeks to grab it all...or whitewash it all.
Internet companies should contribute to reforms in motion. Not just try to cash in prematurely.
Marketing cyanide fish [ laundered thru the white labcoat schtick ]over the internet is just not something we should get behind.
Steve
Such practices really get my blood boiling. My love for the oceans and it's creatures goes back to my childhood. These people profit from the ocean and take advantage of the people of third world countries at the same time. Disgusting! My only hope is that more livestock can be raised in captivity in the future, so it won't be profitable for the scum who peddle it.
clarionreef
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- Location
- San Francisco
Dude,
They and who else??
Everybody thats who.
Except with scant few exceptions but the few exceptions are importers and they can't market directly to hobbyists.
If the etailers would open a store front, buy only netcaught fish and let it all be guided by an uncompromising code of environmental ethics, they could be clean....BUT...just plugging into big L.A. importers and whitewashing it thru their white lab coats does nothing constructive to solve our industrys general infection.
Steve
They and who else??
Everybody thats who.
Except with scant few exceptions but the few exceptions are importers and they can't market directly to hobbyists.
If the etailers would open a store front, buy only netcaught fish and let it all be guided by an uncompromising code of environmental ethics, they could be clean....BUT...just plugging into big L.A. importers and whitewashing it thru their white lab coats does nothing constructive to solve our industrys general infection.
Steve
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