Well I knew I shouldnt have used it, but I had successfully used it once before. I guess we all learn the hard way. I realized now that when i had used it before i didnt have any SPS's. It killed all of my SPS corals within 24 hrs. I stopped the treatment early as soon as I saw some of the corals bleaching. I immediatley did a 30-40% water change. It was already too late as now there all dead, atleast i think there is no chance of them comming back.
Chemiclean warning!
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Here's a possible answer to my own question that i just found, but I am very sceptical... check it out:
http://www.garf.org/redslime.html
not that this specfic add/idea is the one, but what do you all think about animals controlling it? is it a losing battle?
http://www.garf.org/redslime.html
not that this specfic add/idea is the one, but what do you all think about animals controlling it? is it a losing battle?
I put in 8 scoops of it in my tank. Your supposed to put in 1 scoop per 10 gallons. I have a 90 gallon with a 15 gallon sump and 5 gallon fuge. I also have a 4 in DSB and about 125 lbs of rock. I assume i have sum where between 75-80 gallons of actual water. So Im not sure what size of a dose would be safe. Is there even a chance for a coral to come back when its bleached like that?
Maybe you overdosed a little?
90 Gallon tank:
Assuming a 4 inch average DSB (which contains, let's say, 50% water by volume) and a water level 1 inch below the toprim of the tank there is about 76 gallons of water before you consider live rock.
I'd guess that 125lbs of LR must be taking up about a third of the remaining water volume, so that leaves us with about 50 gallons in the main tank.
Assuming you have a 2" sand bed in your fuge and the water is 1 inch from the toprim, we can add another 3.5 or so gallons for a total of 53.5 (ish).
Add 5 gallons (guess) for the water in your piping and skimmer and we're up to 58.5 gallons.
Add to this the volume of water in your sump and we're probably still short of an 80 gallon dose.
I made a few assumptions there,, an inch of water height here and there makes a big difference,,, and I included the water contained in your DSB which I probably shouldn't have, as it's not circulated like the rest of the water in the system,,,,,, but I'm still amazed at the disastrous results. It's not like you overdosed by a factor of 2 or 3.
90 Gallon tank:
Assuming a 4 inch average DSB (which contains, let's say, 50% water by volume) and a water level 1 inch below the toprim of the tank there is about 76 gallons of water before you consider live rock.
I'd guess that 125lbs of LR must be taking up about a third of the remaining water volume, so that leaves us with about 50 gallons in the main tank.
Assuming you have a 2" sand bed in your fuge and the water is 1 inch from the toprim, we can add another 3.5 or so gallons for a total of 53.5 (ish).
Add 5 gallons (guess) for the water in your piping and skimmer and we're up to 58.5 gallons.
Add to this the volume of water in your sump and we're probably still short of an 80 gallon dose.
I made a few assumptions there,, an inch of water height here and there makes a big difference,,, and I included the water contained in your DSB which I probably shouldn't have, as it's not circulated like the rest of the water in the system,,,,,, but I'm still amazed at the disastrous results. It's not like you overdosed by a factor of 2 or 3.
yeah that really sucks, you have my sympathies... here's another possible reason it happened:
I talked to a knowledgeable reef guy today who works at Capital Aquarium in sacramento, and he said that Chemi-Clean is usually cool to use, but when they see problems with it, it seems to be when the tank parameters are off... he said they should be as close to perfect as possible before using it, nitrates, ph, kh, ect. all very ideal... I'm not sure specifically why he didn't say, I can think of a few reasons, but I'd be guessing. Sound reasonable? That's what I heard.
I talked to a knowledgeable reef guy today who works at Capital Aquarium in sacramento, and he said that Chemi-Clean is usually cool to use, but when they see problems with it, it seems to be when the tank parameters are off... he said they should be as close to perfect as possible before using it, nitrates, ph, kh, ect. all very ideal... I'm not sure specifically why he didn't say, I can think of a few reasons, but I'd be guessing. Sound reasonable? That's what I heard.
My tank had been messed up due to a recent crash of a flatworm population. I lost several fish and water quality went to ****. I have tons of algaes. Some cyano, mainly dyno and possibley even some green hair algae. There wasnt as much cyano as the other crap. I did several large water changes to try and get the params back to normal, which they were. Then I added some chemi-clean in hopes of it clearing up everything, because the algaes were not going away. In answer to your question John, I didnt have large qantities of it, but I did have a significant amount.
Im sure I did overdose a little, but nothing that should have really done what it did.
Im sure I did overdose a little, but nothing that should have really done what it did.
I think that really suck. I am sorry to hear that happen. There is a product by Aqua Medic, It is Called Anti Red That works good. Never killed off my Corals. But there is a down side to every product, it did kill off my Calupura that I had in my fuge. The Corals were not harmed though. 
I used it for red slime 2 months ago and in the directions it said turn off skimmer i have a 100gallon also i used 8 scoops to compensate for LR/SUBSTRATE.The next morning all of my fish wer dead,my corals were not affected.The owners told me my fish died from lack of oxygen and that they are removing the part of the directions that says shut skimmer off.Anyway my LFS refunded the price of the chemclean and I freaked on the company"chemclean" so the owner told me to mail him alist of the livestock i lost and he mailed me a check for the whole amount it was still a bummer!
Thanks that gives me some things to think about, it was informative and helpful. I have Chemi-clean, this discussion deals with erythromycin. They are similar in that they are both anti-biotics right? Vitz, would you recomend erythromycin over Chemi-Clean for any reason?
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