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Wetmorella nigropinnata
Pseudochelinops ataenia
Anyone ever kept them together?
Pseudochelinops ataenia
Anyone ever kept them together?
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Nope, but I do know ya can't keep goldfish with guppies 
. Whatever they are Matt, they are gorgeous.
. Whatever they are Matt, they are gorgeous.
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I have a wetmorella. Cool little fish.
Have I ever kept it with a pseudochelinops ataenia? No...the chief reason being that this is the first I've ever seen or heard of it. Has it been in the hobby long?
Have I ever kept it with a pseudochelinops ataenia? No...the chief reason being that this is the first I've ever seen or heard of it.
Has it been in the hobby long?
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Has there been any studies about whether conspecific recognition is based on coloration, body shape, or something else? My cursory thought is that visual cues play the major role, in which case you'd be okay, but that's a total guess...
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apex003":3jwkcxef" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">apex003":3jwkcxef said:
Body shape, size, coloration, habitat, competition for food will all be factors.
If I recall, W. nigropinnata inhabits caves while P. ataenia is more of an open water swimmer inhabiting rubble zones. The Wetmorrella reaches a size of about 3" while the Pseudocheilinops reaches the size of about 2". Both probably feed on pods and possibly zooplankton. I would say if you have nooks and crannies for the Wetmorella and it's introduced first there shouldn't be a problem. Be aware though that both of these fish will jump out of an open aquarium, but Matt probably already knew that. :wink:
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David Mohr
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Pseudocheilinops is closely related to Pseudcheilinus (six lines, mystery wrasses, etc.) except far more peaceful. I can't find any really good pictures of one online but they are a beautiful little fish...and yes, very rare in the hobby. Not terribly expensive though. It's weird that I can go pick up a mystery wrasse at virtually any LFS around here yet they still cost $250. These guys are very hard to find but cheap. Go figure...
Anyway, this was encouraging:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2004/fish.htm
Scott Michael kept them in a 90 gallon w/o problems.
Another very cool and rare wrasse, Halichoeres rubricephalus. Almost got one but they are apparently terrible shippers and I didn't want to risk it. Only gets 4" long.
Anyway, this was encouraging:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2004/fish.htm
Scott Michael kept them in a 90 gallon w/o problems.
Another very cool and rare wrasse, Halichoeres rubricephalus. Almost got one but they are apparently terrible shippers and I didn't want to risk it. Only gets 4" long.
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Matt_Wandell":2fghp5g3 said:Almost got one but they are apparently terrible shippers and I didn't want to risk it. Only gets 4" long.
What wrasse isn't a terrible shipper? If you know one that rides good, please update me, I haven't run across one yet that likes to be shipped
A six-line and a possum don't work, I can account for that
Anyone want a tailess possum wrasse?
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GreshamH":1p6sicm8 said:Matt_Wandell":1p6sicm8 said:Almost got one but they are apparently terrible shippers and I didn't want to risk it. Only gets 4" long.
What wrasse isn't a terrible shipper? If you know one that rides good, please update me, I haven't run across one yet that likes to be shipped
A six-line and a possum don't work, I can account for that
OK, good point
But come to think of it most fairies seem to ship okay, at least in my (very limited compared to yours) experience
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Fairys suck when it comes to shipping Some countries are far worse then others. But hay, even the HI wrasses land really heard, and even our Baja wrasses. Just a horriable shipping creature. They suck for meds as well.
I do love wrasses though, I just hate shipping and recieving of them.
Some countries are far worse then others. But hay, even the HI wrasses land really heard, and even our Baja wrasses. Just a horriable shipping creature. They suck for meds as well.I do love wrasses though, I just hate shipping and recieving of them.
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Huh. I've gotten...let's see, 5 fairies shipped to me. A lineatus, laboutei, 2 solorensis, and a scott's. All of them save the lineatus were out and about and feeding right out of the bag. :? Guess I got lucky...
Flashers otoh have always shipped horribly for me. Just moving them from one tank to another stresses them out.
Flashers otoh have always shipped horribly for me. Just moving them from one tank to another stresses them out.
Here is a picture of my "Red head" wrasse that I got from Marine Center. IMO it is not the fish advertized (link: http://www.themarinecenter.com/halichoeresredhead.htm) but the similar unidentified wrasse from the Phillipines listed on page 121 of Fairy & Rainbow Wrasses and their Relatives by Kuiter. In either case, it is by far the most timid wrasse that I have ever had. ANY fish has the potential to beat up on it. Eats well now though and seems hardy enough. My previous LFS in Chicago used to get them in fairly regularly. Seemed to have a high shipping mortality rate asyou all have mentioned.
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My fairy wrasse shipping experience was terrible, I think they beat themselves to death in the bag during shipping. Just broke my heart to open the box (from multiple attempts) and see those beautiful fish dead in the bag. It was soo sad.
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You noticed the female coloration of the H. rubricephalus right? Could be changing maybe? Kinda looks like an Anampses sp. too. Anyway you can get a better shot of it? Very pretty fish nonetheless!!!
PS I went ahead and got the Pseudocheilinops and a H. iridis. We'll see how all the wrasses play together
Matt_Wandell":1supgyk3 said:sedgro":1supgyk3 said:
You noticed the female coloration of the H. rubricephalus right? Could be changing maybe? Kinda looks like an Anampses sp. too. Anyway you can get a better shot of it? Very pretty fish nonetheless!!!
PS I went ahead and got the Pseudocheilinops and a H. iridis. We'll see how all the wrasses play together
I have Pseudocheilinus hexatainia and Wetmorella nigropinnata in the same aquarium for many years without incident. A lot depends upon the size of the aquarium and the order of introduction. Ideally, you would let the Wetmorella wrasse settle in first, followed by Pseudochelinops ataenia and then Halichoeres iridis. I have all three together in my large reef.
Greg
Nice pic 8)
Well I saw the pseudo hiding in the rockwork near the Wetmorella. Looks like they made friends. The iridis and solorensis wrasse look to be getting along fine as well. The iridis is out and about and just ate some mysis but the pseudo is still just hiding. Good news so far I suppose.
Downside--the iridis ate my bumblebee shrimp about 15 minutes into the tank. Saw it watching the urchin, seemed strange. It was stalking the shrimp and snagged it
Well I saw the pseudo hiding in the rockwork near the Wetmorella. Looks like they made friends. The iridis and solorensis wrasse look to be getting along fine as well. The iridis is out and about and just ate some mysis but the pseudo is still just hiding. Good news so far I suppose.
Downside--the iridis ate my bumblebee shrimp about 15 minutes into the tank. Saw it watching the urchin, seemed strange. It was stalking the shrimp and snagged it
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