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Abouna

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Hello all,

I just found this forum and am hoping to get off on the right foot. Within the next year or two I would like to get back into reef keeping. It has been about 12 years since my last tank and I assume I have been pretty much left in the dust where reef technology is concerned.

My last tank was a 29gal reef. I also kept a 5 gallon mini reef, which back then was fairly unheard of. My set-up was basic but very effective:

Fluval canister filter (don't remember the model) for main particulate and carbon filtering, this I ran through a PVC system with intake at the top of the tank and output through a PVC bar drilled with holes running across the bottom back thus pushing all detritus forward for easy cleaning.

All live rock suspended, again to ease cleaning and detritus clean up, on square plastic grid.

I also ran a double Bio-wheel filter which was the heart of my bio filtration, as I had decided against a traditional wet dry.

I also ran a skimmer though I can't remember what.

I read a lot of Julian Sprung and John Tullock back then, not sure who to read now. I'm basically looking at this as if I'd never done it before. I am hoping to get advice on:

- what to read
- what gear is like and what brands to look for
- anything you wold tell your best friend who has no experience with slat water.

I do know I want:

- at least 40 gal, maybe as much as 60+
- I kept all live rock with soft corals before and I suppose I'd be doing that again as hard corals, at least back then were troublesome and quite a lot more expensive.
- a few small reef fish, I had a clown, yellow tang, mandarin and probably a gramma of sorts before. That was enough to keep the tank interesting. Plus your assorted shrimp or small anemone crab.
- giant clams were always a favorite of mine.

As for the system, I assume there are new choices now. What I had before was very successful but I wouldn't want to duplicate it again unless it was the best way to go.

As for lighting, back then I was always partial to halides over fluorescents, not sure I would be today as I don't know what is available. My preference for the halides stemmed from the shimmer/sunlight effect you'd get which fluorescents couldn't duplicate.

I hope that makes things more clear. I also don't want to go broke!

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you all.
 

fungia

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i just got "the reef aquarium, volume 3" and it is a good book i recommend to you. there is a lot of brands i like, it will depend on the system you want to create.

the main thing i would tell a new hobbyist is to go slow and read a lot. i also like to keep it simple. my tanks are always only live rock, skimmer, good lights like metal halide, lots of flow, water changes, and bionic addtives only. i dont recommend a wetdry or biowheel and i dont like too many addtives. i recommend ro/di filter for your freshwater.

there is t5 lighting now that is very nice and it may work great in a 40 to 60 gallon. for deeper tanks i still like mh.
 

Mihai

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Man, you're on the right path here. You know what you don't know! And you're prepared to read.

Unfortunately there isn't a single good book out there for reef tanks that's up to date. I'd throw in Anthony Calfo's "The book of coral propagation" and Eric Borneman's book on corals.

Regarding filtration, no bio-balls or wet-dry - they'll make too many nitrates and your hard corals (to be discussed in a second) will not like it. Live Rock and a good skimmer is all you need. Maybe some carbon although many do without.

Regarding hard corals, if you have the right lights (metal halide or a whole bunch of fluorescents - either power compacts (PC) or very high output (VHO) ) they are not that hard. I recommend against buying large colonies (they are expensive and don't adapt sometimes). Get small frags and watch them grow. They'll get big in about one year (two if they are picky). It's way more fun and not as expensive: one frag will take you back $5-$20 (unless is a super-rare stuff for which you can pay $40-50 or even as much as $2000 or more).

Join a local reef club - I'm sure it's one near you and trade frags.
You'll see - once you have a few large corals you'll want to get rid of the frags because otherwise they fight.

Regarding brands, you have to come back with more specific questions.
I'll make a small list of what I know:

pumps - powerheads - maxijet for budget minded and Tunze for rich guys :)
- return pumps - Iwaki and PanWorld - Blueline (best)
- Ocean runner (good value IMO)

skimmer - ASM and Euroreef

MH lights - I'm going with PFO, I found them a good value, but others may chime in.

Ca reactors - I don't know. I heard Delta are good (but expensive?)

And best advice: don't buy anything until you read two books (any two good books) and hang around a good board (like this one :) ) for while.
Otherwise you'll end up with some unwanted equipment.

Finally, ask if anything bothers you: there are some awesome guys on this board with loads of experience (not me!). Warning: there are also 2-3 guys that answer any question regardless if they know the answer or not. I'll not name names now, but if you hang around a bit you'll be able to tell them appart.

M.
 

LA-Lawman

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Hi!

welcome the Reefs.org!!! 8)


here is a link to help you figure out what skimmer you want... I would say a needle whell skimmer will give you the most bang for your buck... but there are many choices... do not buy the cheapest solution... because you will pay dearly in the end to fix the issue.

http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=78592

Lighting....

again I would suggest metal halide... if you pick a spectrum with some plu to it.. 14k -15k to even 20k.. you may not need to supplement with actinics. If you chose a 10k bulb you will want to havesome actinic in there.

PFO,Hamilton, and now CurrentUSA make some nice enclosed ONE PIECE units that will suit you fine... PFO and hamilton use both 150w and 250w double end bulbs... while CurrentUSA uses 150w double ends exclusively... but they include moonlight LED's

if you are budget minded at this point you could consider VHO's like the others suggested... just stack some tubes in the hood and get some icecap ballasts... you will be fine

let us know if you plan to use a sump. there are many overflow options and if you are interested in drilling the tank. thee are many here wo can help you...

again... welcome to Reefs.org... we are here for you.. :D
 

Abouna

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Thanks for the replies!

I'm going to start reading and then I'll be back. It may sporadic for a while but this board looks like the place to be.

Really, thanks.
 

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