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alvintheclownfish

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i justaquascaped my whole tank, and when i turned everything back on i stuck my hand in the tank and toitally got shocked, and i thought it was static and di it again and WOW! it huirt soo bad... so i unplugged everything and checked it all , i have 1 suspect plz tell what u think , my heater must have cracked it the process and had water in it, do yall think that is why? i have aq 24 metal halide with brackets holding it up, other than the submesible pump and the filter in the back i dont know, pl help!!!!!!!
 
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Well, if you take out the heater and turn everything else on, can you stick your hand in the tank without getting a shock?

if not, you have further to look.

:)

Be careful! Electricity is dangerous.

jayo
 
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Although, if you aren't very sure that it is the heater, you can turn things on one by one, sticking your hand in in between, to find out what equipment is safe.

If the shock is really bad, I don't recommend this method. Can anyone else chime in with a better method for detecting stray electricity than self-electrocution? Would a GFI plug trip in a situation like this?

jayo
 

alvintheclownfish

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ay other method be be great, my fish seem ok now, b4 they weere kinda stranding still, and thats when i played with the water and felt it
 

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Check any wires going to any powerheads circulating water in the tank. You might have scraped one while moving stuff around in the tank. Also, they might be brittle where they enter the water line and where coral has built up on the cables.

Maybe you can see if there is voltage in the tank with a volt meter somehow so you don't have to put your hand in there to test it. 8O Maybe put the positive in the tank and ground the negative somewhere outside the tank and see if you get a reading.

I doubt that your problem lies in your sump unless you messed around in there. I'd suspect the place you were working in first and foremost.

If it WAS the thermometer, then you may want to go out and grab a new one before your local fish store closes this afternoon (and doesn't open until after labor day).
 
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Well if you have a volt meter you can test the water that way... if not, the finger test really isn't advised, you'll ESPECIALLY feel it if you have any cuts or scratches on your hand/arm. But unplug everything, then plug things in one at a time to test them, when you find the culprit, unplug everything again and plug in ONLY the culprit to test again. Now the reason I say do this is often there can be two items that are the cause where any one item isn't bad two can be bad.

Eitherway be careful with electricity (again especially if you have cuts) it's not a good beast and the electrical resistance between any two people can be orders of magnitudes difference so that someone might feel a mild jolt while someone else could literally get shocked to death. Either way, don't feel too bad I got zapped by a 250w MH :)
 

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This MAY sound like a hazard, but using a voltmeter you can:
-set it to AC 120 Volt range
-put the negative/black terminal into the GROUND (round, NOT flat) hole in a wall socket. This is the third hole in an outlet that is not always used. You know, two flat holes and then below or above them a single kinda round hole for the thrid prong to stick in on grounded plugs.
IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHICH HOLE IN THE OUTLET I MEAN, THEN DO NOT TRY THIS. I AM NOT AN ELECTRICIAN. I just know enough to get me in trouble. :wink: Let me know if you want me to show you a photo of where to stick the negative ("yeah, I'll tell ya where ta stick it!") 8O
-put the positive/red terminal into the water and see if you get a reading
 
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Are you using any kind of surge protector or GFCI? If so, it should trip as soon as you plug up the problem. If not, go get one.
 
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I vote for the broken submersible heater being the culprit. The best way would be to use a surge protector to test it. If he doesn't have one installed he can substitute one of those 6 outlet power strips that has a GFI built right into it.
 
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get your neighbors cat and drop it in there if it looks anything more than annoyed, there is still electricity in there. lol. J/k

I would say the heater is the culprit as well. Use caution. Electricity is a big danger in the hobby as you well know now.
 

alvintheclownfish

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WOW, thanks for the comments, i did the checks by finger and it was the heater so i didnt get shocked again thankfully, so i did go buy a heater b4 it closed but wow, getting shocked never even crossed my mind!!!!
 
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Rover":7aquoyf0 said:
Are you using any kind of surge protector or GFCI? If so, it should trip as soon as you plug up the problem. If not, go get one.

Apparently not.
 
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alvintheclownfish":3s48gw3b said:
WOW, thanks for the comments, i did the checks by finger and it was the heater so i didnt get shocked again thankfully, so i did go buy a heater b4 it closed but wow, getting shocked never even crossed my mind!!!!


Electricity and salt water is a dicy combination.


You are INSANE for not using a GFCI, and also in violation of electrical codes which require them wherever you can touch water and provide a conduit for electrons.

Get one and install it.

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Lawdawg":3j6nx6fe said:
I vote for the broken submersible heater being the culprit. The best way would be to use a surge protector to test it. If he doesn't have one installed he can substitute one of those 6 outlet power strips that has a GFI built right into it.

I've had those trip off during a power failure so the electricity won't come on again until you reset it manually.
 

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i had the same thinf happen to me with my aquapod. what happens is the wires get pinched in the hood causing a short in the wire. check the wires for nicks.
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Subcomandante Marcos":2y8p6c3u said:
Lawdawg":2y8p6c3u said:
I vote for the broken submersible heater being the culprit. The best way would be to use a surge protector to test it. If he doesn't have one installed he can substitute one of those 6 outlet power strips that has a GFI built right into it.

I've had those trip off during a power failure so the electricity won't come on again until you reset it manually.

I know, I dislike them, but it's better than nothing for a quick fix only until he can install a GFI properly.
 
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Lawdawg":11j0sig9 said:
If he doesn't have one installed he can substitute one of those 6 outlet power strips that has a GFI built right into it.

I'm curious about this. Are the little 'pop' switches that come on most of the 6 outlet extension cords GFCI, or are they some other kind of safety device?

I'm talking about the kind that's usually sold as a 'power strip' for computers, etc. They seem to all have some kind of overload protection, but that isn't a GFCI,or is it?
 
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No, it isn't. The tipoff is that it will have a red and a black button similar to what is pictured above. The red is the test, and the black is the reset.
 
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John, the one for computers has a surge protector on it, not a ground fault interupter(er) thingy :lol:.
 

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