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Hi Guys,
I'm here in Cairns, Australia working with some of the original net collectors that helped prepare me for training in the Philippines in the early 80's.
They saw this thread and very much want to import Bali netcaught fishes!
The fish they collect here are spot on as they say...but the species are of course not all the same and they would love to grow their lists of netcaught fishes but do not trust the sources in Bali as the cyanide trade has had its way there foior so long.
By Australian standards, Bali fish are poor in comparison....but I told em about the Les Village and that the fish from there are the real deal...and I know because I dove with them and saw first hand how they caught fishes.
Unlike the Americans...they take this stuff far more seriously in Australia. The law mandates net collecting and the rules of engagement are very strict.
The Australian quarantine rules hold that you must hold your fish for a full week so if you bring in bad fish ...questionable fish ...burnt fish...juiced fish...it shows a lot more starkly.
For this reason....they want to be sure that the fish are of better quality then is acceptable to the Yanks who tend to sell their fish as soon as possible.
It is so refreshing to land in a place where issues such as mesh size, decompression formula, handling practice and tactics of collecting are the norm. I fit in here as just another guy who gets it....as opposed to outsiders looking for more complcated answers then the truth.
The Aussie standards are higher then that required by certain NGO schemes and are already in place and actively producing clean fish.
As I write this, the guys are packing a big batch or orders going to out all over the country and no DOA is pretty much expected....and routine.
The stuff we are often on about regarding reform is already real here and already available to learn from.
And it has been for 25 years or so.
Steve
 

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Steve, cheers mate!

Looks as though the Aussies are far ahead of the pack.

Can you bring back as much information as you can.
For example the regulations that require holding the fish.
Also any other procedures they follow to comply with the regs.

Also is there any 'daily maximum quota requirements"/
Are there restrictions is the size of the fish (minimum and maximum)?
Are they restricted from catching certain species because they or unsuitable for aquariums?
ie. the fish, invert or coral has little chance of survival in a hobbyist tank
the fish, invert or coral has a short lifespan
the fish, invert or coral is poisonous

Are there present restrictions on the import of fish from the Philippines and Indonesia where the use of cyanide is rampant?

Are they permitted to use clove oil or quin to catch fish?

Thank you
Wayne Ryan
 
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Hey Steve,

Glad you are there and glad they are doing well.
I think its been known that it is going on there - the question has always been how to get other countries to follow suit.
 

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Thales":ypkp1ank said:
Hey Steve,

Glad you are there and glad they are doing well.
I think its been known that it is going on there - the question has always been how to get other countries to follow suit.

I think the answer is Thails is that the US Government needs to get heavily involved. I could be wrong, but I don't think the Aussie industry decided to self regulate themselves.
US industry had a chance at self-regulation but they blew it.
Wayne Ryan
 
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Wayne,

The problem is not the importing countries, but the exporting countries. I am astounded that you don't seem to understand that idea.
 

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Thales":2sd1e0sv said:
Wayne,

The problem is not the importing countries, but the exporting countries. I am astounded that you don't seem to understand that idea.

No, its both.

Wayne Ryan
 

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an excerpt from an article by Walter Stark

Marine Resource Management
Over regulation and over management of the fisheries
by Dr.Walter Starck PhD

"Because we put so many restrictions in the way of our fishery that fishermen are finding it impossible to operate. On the Great Barrier Reef we've put aside a third of the entire reef where they can't go at all, and then in the area where they're still allowed to go they have a total quota, they have individual quotas, they have closed seasons, they have gear limits, they have size limits, they have species prohibitions, and an incredible amount of paperwork that has to document each and every fish you catch and where it comes from and when you caught it, and it has to be filed within five hours of returning to port.
Many fishermen are simply giving up."
 
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Thales":2yj5gj36 said:
The problem is not the importing countries, but the exporting countries. I am astounded that you don't seem to understand that idea.

I'm astounded that you're astounded.

Steve, how much of a higher price point will these fish command?

Peace,

Chip
 

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With regard to the Starck article, I just received the full article from Steve Robinson. It raises the concern that too much regulation may put the fishers out of business. However, like the FWC thread it at least addresses the question of "How should coral reef fisheries be managed?"

As a fisheries biologist who has conducted quantitiative stock assessments in Canada and the USA, I find the discussions of interest. We will soon have Dr. John Day of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority GBRMPA speaking (Nov 19th) at the FWC Fish and Wildlife Research Institute (FWRI) headquarters in Saint Petersburg, FL. His presentation will discuss the success of spatial mangement. I will post a summary of his presentation and make comments after his presentation. The presentation is open to the public, so
persons from the trade are welcome to attend.

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Chip,
Australian fishes are collected and shipped mainly to Aussie retailers and a shorter list to foreign wholesalers.
The retailer in say, Sydney pays 12 bucks for a fat, handcaught chelmon caught recently with 3/8ths inch mesh barrier net by Australian divers....
If they export the chelmon to the US...the importer must also pay frieght and the cost of a great copperband is already quite a bit beyond the skinny, emaciated ones from the Philippines.
So......the dying ones from Manila sell far better and preclude the fish from ever really coming from here in any numbers. The American market has decided what it wants and that is very well known here.
Endemic fishes from here can move though as they are not available from the Philippines.
Theres another story from herethough that is simply amazing.
I went with them to pick up a shipment from the Philippines [ mostly damsels and small fish that are too cheap to focus on here] and the costs of import were as follows.
Fish invoice $650.00
Frieght $750.00
Australian customs, quarantine , inspection, documentation and other assorted charges $1,200.00!!!!
2,500.00
The extortion they must pay to their own governemt to inspect fishes they cannot identify is mindblowing...and yet, if they don't pay it, they cannot import.
So....their own netcaught well handled fish are cheaper then the questionable fishes from abroad.
If they had all the worlds species, they would be set...but of course hobbyist want the exotic stuff from far away. The upshot is that yellow tangs costs over a hundred bucks a piece here! Kole tangs a hundred, and most Bali/Philippine damsels 12-15 each.
There is a ban on imports of invertebrates and cleaner shrimp are scarce...and have risen in price to $75 to the retailer....and over a hundred to the Ozzie hobbyist.
One importer imported his own cleaner shrimp in hidden pouches under the fish bags ...and went to jail as a result.

" Whatareya in for mate..."
"Smugglin cleaner shrimp...

Its thru the looking glass here as the government seeks to regulate the few operations they haven't killed off with onerous and excessive regulation and regulatory costs and fees to help run themselves.
They are generally hostile to fisheries, fisherman, aquaculture and have put clam and pearl farmers out of business and ruined many other businesses .
 

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The regulators are generally political appointees and work in offices in Canberra and Townsville. They don't get out much and don't mix with fishers much except when there is a "town hall meeting".
Then there is already a predetermined outcome and they just endure the upset and frustrated fisherfolk.
The Australian consumption of tropical fishes in the Great Barrier Reef was determined by their own reserach to be equal to a single hours predator consumtion per year. Understanding full well that this trade run this way is benign and w/ negligible impact....they are overcharged and overregulated for the sake of overcharging and overregulating.

The greenies as they are called, have evolved beyond their original passion for the environment and have spawned an almost detached, spiritual worship of the ocean and have opposed most use of it aside from snorkle diving cattle boats carrying the thousands of tourists they deliver to the reef daily.
Perhaps Australia is a look into the future where bureaucrats on fixed incomes generally find it easy to torture, harm and ruin their own fisherman on the pretext of doing precautionary good.
It has been explained that these city people have simply not come to grips with the reality that Australia is not so industrilized and has many people whose livelihood is the field and of the sea.
They have become insensitive and perhaps ashamed of their non urban workforce and have learned to delete the income of others w/ the stroke of a pen .
The Great Barrier Reef is doing very well and much of it, especially North of Cairns sees few if any boats in an entire day. Of far greater concern should be the poaching raids from foreign operators that hit and run on the reefs and kill 4 foot giant clams and butcher huge, undisclosed tonnages of fish.[ 13,000 illegal entries ie. hits in a single year!]
Inventing harm and alarm seems to be a modus operandi among the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority . Their 35 million dollar a year budget...[yes 35 mil!] has to be spent..or lost. It has to be seen as active, purpose driven and useful. It has to be justified and the logical enemy they can target is the fisherman.
I must admit, I was shocked to see where our own green movement is heading. The Australian model is not the way at all and must not be the nightmare of our own future...a future where the cost of regulation may well exceed the value of the fishery.
It is the hieght of arrogance to hypocricy to embrace the lobster dinner, but not the lobsterman, the scallop and not the scallopman and the fish, but not the fishermen.
The fishers I am working with are all ardent conservationists and if they ever caught a cyanide boat or a clam poaching boat they would string him up themselves. They understand the threats that truly exist and need not manufacture them. Habitat is holy, and they all agree. The not harming of habitat insures the vitality of their fishery and allows the very same same reefs to be worked since I worked here in 1982....
The guys that taught me worked those reefs for 15 years prior so thats 40 years now of commercial and sustained collecting off the most popular reef out here [ Arlington Reef ]
They are the inspiration, template, the model I used long ago....and to this day they have the best example of proper collecting and good news there is.
The Aussie are clean as a whistle and deserve better reward and recognition for it.
Steve Robinson
Cairns, Australia
MAC shoulda camped out here for a half year....listened , watched, learned and then gone forth.
 

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Steve,

Thanks for sharing that information.

Seems that the Australian government knows about the economical importance of the coral reefs, as well as the importance of fish populations not only for the present generation but for the next one. They do an excellent good job managing their natural resources.

The contrary is happening in places such as Indonesia, Philippines, Haiti, Vietnam...etc, where there is little concern about the economical value of their natural resources. In these countries there is not willingness neither commitment from central governments to properly manage the natural resources. Poverty, corruption and lack of education do not mix when dealing with environmental issues.

Steve, I guess the fish collectors get good pay for their fish. How are they? Are they educated? Do they have electricity in their houses? What about water? Do they get good education?

Thanks in advance

Jaime
 
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Jamie,

Why do you think that is? Why doesn't someone realize that conservation and moderation with sustainable reefs/harvesting can benefit those countries much more in the long run than whatever they're getting in the short run?

Peace,

Chip
 

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New Aussie hero..............
The high cost of precaution
by Dr.Walter Starck PhD


Australia rides on the sheep’s back.” sounds a bit quaint and outdated in today’s 21st century nation where 90% of the population rarely sees a sheep, cow or farm. Everyone knows high-tech manufacturing and services are the core of advanced economies and a pristine natural environment is surely more important than the profits of a few primary producers.
Although this seems to be the general view of much of the overwhelmingly urban majority of the population, the reality is quite different. Australian manufacturing is in decline. Two decades ago it comprised 18% of GDP. Now it is just 13%. In NZ it is 19%, the UK 17%, and in China it’s 39%. With the ongoing boom in manufacturing in Asia, the huge untapped labour reserve there and our much greater costs, taxes and regulatory burden it seems unlikely that this situation will reverse anytime soon.
In 2005 manufactures accounted for $32 billion of Australian exports while imports of manufactured goods were $126 billion. Primary products exports were $87 billion of which $60 billion were unprocessed raw materials. Imports of primary products were $26 billion. Service exports were $37 billion and imports were $38 billion. Total exports were $176 billion and total imports were $194 billion. The deficit of imports over exports was $17 billion for merchandise (primary and manufactured) plus $1.5 billion in services.
While “the clever country” and “the smart state” make catchy political slogans only the not-so-bright could actually believe in a future prosperity based on our outsmarting everyone else. With our small population and abundance of resources, primary production will clearly continue to play a dominant role in our economic well being for the foreseeable future.
Eco Burden
There is, however, a significant and growing impediment to any productive activity that involves natural resources or the environment. All across the nation farmers, graziers, fishermen, miners, developers, and just ordinary property owners are finding themselves thwarted by complex ill-conceived environmental regulations enforced by an aggressive uncooperative bureaucracy wielding broad and often arbitrary powers of discretion.
Paperwork, unanticipated requirements, restrictions, delays, uncertainties and costs are all growing. More and more activity is either blocked entirely, or worse yet manages to get started at great effort and cost but ends up so encumbered as to be rendered unprofitable. Even worse still, the costs and demands are becoming beyond the means of all but the wealthy. The tradition of a fair go should be listed as an endangered species This situation has steadily grown over the past several decades. Like a cancer, at first it wasn’t noticeable. Then it became an uncomfortable niggle which with increasing effort could still be tolerated. Now it is beginning to eat into the vital organs of the economy. Graziers are having their paddocks overtaken by woody scrub they are not permitted to clear. Rural home-owners are finding themselves unable to do anything about an accumulating tinderbox of combustible material just waiting for an inevitable fire to destroy their home. Our fishing industry, the most lightly harvested in the world], is in decline from ever increasing restrictions and demands.
Aquaculture, while enjoying a remarkable boom all around the world, is being strangled at birth by impossible demands here. Despite vast areas of undeveloped land almost any productive use confronts large costs, imposts, and restrictions if not prohibited entirely.
Much of this problem has been masked by the boom in commodities, a cultural trait of doggedly struggling on through times of adversity, and the common human tendency of denial in the face of looming unpleasantness. However, we have now reached a level where increasing amounts of productive activity is simply ending up in the too-hard category.
Commodity markets are by nature volatile. When the present boom subsides, as all booms do, the economic impact will be exacerbated by the self-inflicted abuse the nation has imposed across the rural sector. Severely handicapping one’s most important natural advantage is hardly “clever” or “smart”. To the contrary, it is downright stupid.
In discussing such issues publicly a question is often raised regarding the importance of an “unspoiled: natural environment. Ironically, this is almost always posed by an urban dweller who choses to live where the natural world has been virtually annihilated. It is never asked by a primary producer. Implicit in such questions is the assumption that a problem exists and more regulation is needed. More often than not, either the problem doesn’t actually exist at all or the proposed measure is an unnecessarily restrictive means of addressing it.
When not explicitly prohibitive, environmental regulations are becoming so insanely complex, mired in bureaucracy and costly that the effect is the same. Although aquaculture is the fastest growing food producing sector in the world and we have superb natural conditions for it, here in Queensland there have been no new development applications for it in the past three years.
Eco-ideology
Environmentalism has become a quasi-religious blend of new-age nature worship, junk science, left-wing political activism and anti-profit economics. Saving the environment supports a mini-industry of activists, bureaucrats and researchers all of whom have a vested interest in promoting the idea of threats, which, of course, require more campaigns, more bureaucracy and more research. Misinformed politicians thinking they are doing the right thing and perceiving popularity at little apparent cost have tended to give rubber stamp approval to the environmentalist agenda. A charade of democratic process is provided by public consultation with “stakeholders” which somehow is deemed to include activists whose only stake is as self-appointed saviours of the environment. Selected results are then bannered to the extent that they support the agenda and ignored or not revealed when they don’t. Lapdog “peak bodies” funded by government furnish a façade of industry consultation.
Environmental management is now dominated by ideology, theories, models and a proliferation of regulation with minimal assessment of actual conditions, the efficacy
of management measures, the environmental result or the socio-economic consequences. A particularly malignant adjunct of all this has been a general acceptance of the precautionary principle as a politically correct cannon of environmental management. This mandates that any imagined possibility of a problem must be addressed with full measures to prevent it. One simply can’t be too careful when dealing with anything so precious as the environment.
Unfortunately this principle makes no reference to assessment of probability, cost, or the possible consequences of risks and it provides a convenient cloak for sundry other agendas. Followed to its logical conclusion it would even preclude itself. Everything we do or don’t do, entails risk. This includes precautionary measures themselves. Amazingly, this vacuous and pernicious piece of nonsense has actually been written into various legislation such as the enabling act for the Australian Fisheries Management Authority and legislation protecting wetlands in Queensland. A Google search of the phrase “precautionary principle” restricted to Australia returned some 117,000 links. Nowhere else does precaution appear to have been so wholeheartedly embraced as here. The end result has been a proliferation of restrictions to address problems for which there is no evidence of their actual existence.
Eco-bureaucracy
A Google search of pages from Australia on the words - best managed coral reef - or - best managed fisheries – is also revealing. It turns up numerous links to government, research, and environmental organization websites. Often these self awarded accolades are modestly qualified by the additional phrase “in the world”. Reality presents a somewhat different picture. While it is true that we have some of the most pristine waters in the world with little incidence of overfishing, superior management has little to do with it. We also have one of the least productive, heavily regulated and expensively administered fishery sectors in the world and management has everything to do with this situation.
Fishery Management
Over recent decades the whole approach to fishery management has undergone a sea change. In the past maximum sustained yield was the ideal and monitoring of the fishery itself was the primary methodology. Now we have a new generation of fisheries biologists schooled in theories and enthralled by computer models. Although such models can be of value in gaining insights about the possible dynamics of a resource their output is fraught with many uncertainties. Typically they are based on simplistic assumptions and very uncertain estimates about complex and highly variable phenomena of which we genuinely understand very little. Usually they require generous adjustment to yield results that are within the bounds of the possible. In practice they tend to reflect more the assumptions and aims of the modeler than anything in reality.
Management of our fisheries has become divorced from the realities of the industry, the nature of the resource itself and our best information of its condition and dynamics. The result has been an imposition of hypothetical solutions to imaginary problems with increasing demands on fishermen that have become impossible for growing numbers of them to meet. Fishing is a demanding, uncertain, often even dangerous, business. The ability to bear added costs and restrictions is limited but in recent years these have been heaped on with minimal regard for the impact on the industry.
The natural communities upon which our fisheries are based are in reality not fragile and delicate but are in fact, decidedly robust and flexible ones that readily recover from frequent natural perturbations. There is little risk in monitoring fisheries and addressing problems if and when they become apparent, rather than trying to take elaborate pre-emptive action to avoid an endless array of imaginary possibilities. In view of our ignorance and the complexity of the matters involved, it would also be prudent to test measures before applying them on a broad scale as well as to carefully assess their results when implemented.
Although there are a few species (e.g. orange roughy and school shark) whose particular biology makes them especially vulnerable to overfishing, the broad picture of the Australian marine environment is that of a vast, very lightly fished and unpolluted region. There is no pressing urgency to impose a rapidly growing morass of restrictions but there is very real need to better understand and evaluate what we are doing.
In general a much more empirically based approach is needed. Management decisions need to be based on what is actually happening in a fishery, not theories and models. Regulation should be imposed only where a demonstrated need exists and results should be monitored and evaluated. Much stronger involvement of the industry in formulating management measures is essential to insure that the form of demands is appropriate to the realities of the fishery. Management by theory without broad and ongoing assessment of actual conditions and results is a prescription for mismanagement.
The whole endeavour has also taken on aspects of the sacred. This manifests itself in language where fragile and delicate have become almost mandatory adjectives in describing the natural world. It is further reflected in the heavy penalties and zealous enforcement of environmental regulations even when infractions are trivial and no actual damage has been done. Since expansion of the green zones on the Barrier Reef two years ago some 300 people have been charged with fishing in them. The conviction rate has been an unbelievable 99%. In addition to a hefty fine the law imposes a mandatory criminal record. Ninety-eight percent of those convicted have been otherwise law abiding citizens with no previous criminal record. They are now banned for life from many activities. Many, if not most, actually caught nothing but were guilty only of accidentally or ignorantly crossing an imaginary line in the ocean when trolling. They would have been much better off to be caught speeding through a school zone where the fine would be less and the infringement only a misdemeanor. It seems we value a child’s life less than that of a mackerel.
Eco-authoritaranism
It would be easy to dismiss all this as the grumblings of a grumpy old man but think again. The picture presented is certainly no less unbelievable than the apparent belief of politicians and bureaucrats that the private sector has a limitless capacity to comply with ever increasing demands. Every year thousands of pages of new laws are enacted and few are ever rescinded. Laws to “save” the environment are popular, usually entail little apparent budgetary cost and are unseemly to oppose. They also come highly recommended by the government’s own bureaucrats and researchers as well as publicity savvy environmental groups. Not surprisingly, they tend to be passed with minimal consideration or dissent. It all might be seen as just messy old democracy in action except for one very important omission. Those who will directly be affected usually have little say in the process. Typically they comprise only a scattered un-organized minority who are easily dismissed as ignorant complainers wanting to despoil our precious environment for their own selfish profit.
Desperate fishermen are being driven into bankruptcy where they know from direct personal experience the claimed problems do not really exist. When they try to express their concerns to the managers, researchers and environmentalist the only response they get is unsubstantiated claims of scientific validity accompanied by a semi-polite smile that could easily be seen as smug satisfaction. This is real . I’ve observed it and this is not just my own unique impression. A number of independent observers have noted and commented along similar lines not to mention numerous fishermen.
Australian fisheries are in decline, not from overfishing, there are plenty of fish out there, but from ill conceived regulation. Despite having the world’s third largest fishery zone the total Australian catch is similar to that of Finland, Germany, Poland and Portugal but well below that of New Zealand, France, Ireland and Italy. From 6% of the global EEZ we produce 0.2% of the world’s catch. In other words, our harvest rate on an area basis is about 1/30 that of the average. This magnitude of difference goes beyond just poor management. It requires some form of determined rejection of blatantly obvious reality to explain. It’s a bit like the decades-long determined insistence of the communist ideal when the reality was clearly an ongoing disaster. Not coincidentally that too was a consequence of management where ideology and bureaucracy had complete control.

Walter Starck:
Because we put so many restrictions in the way of our fishery that fishermen are finding it impossible to operate. On the Great Barrier Reef we've put aside a third of the entire reef where they can't go at all, and then in the area where they're still allowed to go they have a total quota, they have individual quotas, they have closed seasons, they have gear limits, they have size limits, they have species prohibitions, and an incredible amount of paperwork that has to document each and every fish you catch and where it comes from and when you caught it, and it has to be filed within five hours of returning to port.
Many fishermen are simply giving up.
 

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Jamie,

Why do you think that is? Why doesn't someone realize that conservation and moderation with sustainable reefs/harvesting can benefit those countries much more in the long run than whatever they're getting in the short run?

Peace,

Chip

Chip,

Once, while talking to fisherfolks in Colombia about the importance of coral reefs and the negative consequences of dynamite fishing a fisherman raised, what remained of his amputated right arm, and said to me " l when I am out fishing, I do not have a choice, many times I had to use the "dynamite stick", once with the consequences you see, to put food on the table for my family.
If I don't... my kids could starve. What do you think I would consider. The coral reef? or my family?
. He added that as fisherfolks they felt neglected by the central government, no education, no roads, no electricity, no potable water...nothing. It was true.

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Then I suppose it has nothing to do with the reefs at all, but the country in general. Other than the natural beauty of the place it sounds like a horrible place to live...at least from an American point of view.

The government not getting involved seems to be the root of the problem, and with the people submissive the government will not change. Too bad. :(

Peace,

Chip
 

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Chip,

That is the situation in almost all the developing countries, fisherfolks needs are not a priority for central governments. Coral reefs are close to these coastal communities in tropical countries. There is a lack of willingness and commitment to protect those natural resources.
In the main cities of those countries life is not bad. The population has everything they need, hospitals, schools, road, running potable water, electricity. They do contribute to the economy of the country by paying taxes.

The situation in coastal communities is complicated.

Jaime
 

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I JUST LOVE THIS GUYS INSIGHTS;


Eco-authoritaranism
It would be easy to dismiss all this as the grumblings of a grumpy old man but think again. The picture presented is certainly no less unbelievable than the apparent belief of politicians and bureaucrats that the private sector has a limitless capacity to comply with ever increasing demands.

Every year thousands of pages of new laws are enacted and few are ever rescinded. Laws to “save” the environment are popular, usually entail little apparent budgetary cost and are unseemly to oppose. They also come highly recommended by the government’s own bureaucrats and researchers as well as publicity savvy environmental groups. Not surprisingly, they tend to be passed with minimal consideration or dissent.

It all might be seen as just messy old democracy in action except for one very important omission. Those who will directly be affected usually have little say in the process. Typically they comprise only a scattered un-organized minority who are easily dismissed as ignorant complainers wanting to despoil our precious environment for their own selfish profit.
Desperate fishermen are being driven into bankruptcy where they know from direct personal experience the claimed problems do not really exist. When they try to express their concerns to the managers, researchers and environmentalist the only response they get is unsubstantiated claims of scientific validity accompanied by a semi-polite smile that could easily be seen as smug satisfaction..

Its a bit like the decades-long determined insistence of the communist ideal when the reality was clearly an ongoing disaster. Not coincidentally that too was a consequence of management where ideology and bureaucracy had complete control.
 

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