My royal gramma had "salt grains" on him 2 days agi, but not the clown, they disappeared within a couple of hours, like some sand stuck to him maybe. Yesterday clown had one salt grain, and it's gone today. ROyal gramma has smaller spots now in different places than before. SUre looks like ich. I never saw ich come and go like this before with freshwater, am I being paranoid? These were my first two fish. I have cleaner shrimp, but no one has been cleaning anyone.
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Is it ICH
- Thread starter Be11yDancer
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Hard to say, but i think it's possible that it's ich or paranoia. If you have experience with freshwater ich, you should be able to tell if you can get a good look. Saltwater ich looks pretty similar. It is possible for them to come and go. The normal immune system is enough to keep ich away, and fish only get a bad case if they are stressed or weakened in any way. Your fish may be fairly healthy but the slight stress from being in a new environment may be causing them to battle ich. Your cleaner shrimp may also be cleaning them when youre not looking. Do you have a quarantine tank set up? If not I might set one up while you can. If the ich gets bad you need to move the fish to the QT and treat them there, preferably with hyposalinity. Other than that just keep an eye on them. If they are healthy and not stressed they should be able to fight the ich off. Good luck.
Thanks, I did remember, sources unknown, that very healthy fish resist ich. I bet I have it.
I'll be converting a small freshwater tank for a hospital tank. It has a hanging filter. I'll remove the charcoal from the filter pads and anything else?
Maybe I will try the freshwater treatment, too . . .
I'll be converting a small freshwater tank for a hospital tank. It has a hanging filter. I'll remove the charcoal from the filter pads and anything else?
Maybe I will try the freshwater treatment, too . . .
If you are to try the hyposalinity treatment, you should be aware that precise equipment is needed in order to make it a success. You should target a specific gravity of about 1.009 to 1.010. If you have, like most aquarist do (myself included) a plastic swingarm hydrometer, you should be aware that they are notoriously not accurate. Since hyposalinity needs too be precice in order to be successful, I strongly suggest that you forget this kind of treatment. If you have a refractometer or a glass hydrometer, then you may proceed.Be11yDancer":21ivw2zq said:Thanks, I did remember, sources unknown, that very healthy fish resist ich. I bet I have it.
I'll be converting a small freshwater tank for a hospital tank. It has a hanging filter. I'll remove the charcoal from the filter pads and anything else?
Maybe I will try the freshwater treatment, too . . .
Ich will not disappear by itself because you fish are healthy. That is not factual. Marine Ich, contrary to FW water Ich is much more pernicious. Marine Ich has developped the ability to only release itself from the fish and release it's "babies" during the night time. Since most marine fish tend to sleep at the same place in the aquarium, needless to say that an Ich infection will be quite hellish, since the same fish will be directly but not solely targeted after each Ich life cycle.
I suggest you do like Meloco suggested and set a hopistal tank and treat your fish with Seachem Cupramine. If you do not want to resort to chemicals, you need to do 50% water change each day with a cleaning of the bare bottom hospital tank. The treatment with the water change method will take a bout 1 month and is not guaranteed to work.
HTH
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ichart2mar.htm
Check out this article. It goes into detail about the life cycle and treatment of marine ick. Just be careful with the treatments. If you have a weak of really sick fish sometimes the treatment can be as fatail as what you are trying to treat.
Good luck.
Check out this article. It goes into detail about the life cycle and treatment of marine ick. Just be careful with the treatments. If you have a weak of really sick fish sometimes the treatment can be as fatail as what you are trying to treat.
Good luck.
I can't catch the royal gramma easily to dip him in a hypo bath or move him to a hospital tank.
Any tricks? I'm leaving the net in the tank so he wont' be afraid of it. But he darts back in his hole as soon as it moves.
He still looks strong, but has some faint white spots.
Clown is good no spots, if I have ich will he get it or can he resist?
Wazzel is that a rat?
We have those pets too . . . . such a shame they have a bad rep! No guinea pig, hamster, or gerbil can come close to their cuteness.
Any tricks? I'm leaving the net in the tank so he wont' be afraid of it. But he darts back in his hole as soon as it moves.
He still looks strong, but has some faint white spots.
Clown is good no spots, if I have ich will he get it or can he resist?
Wazzel is that a rat?
We have those pets too . . . . such a shame they have a bad rep! No guinea pig, hamster, or gerbil can come close to their cuteness.
It is a mouse that got stuck in a printer. Just a photo that got posted here and I cropped it a bit.
Generally if you have Ick it will hit every fish in the tank. Stronger healthy fish seem to fair better. I've had it run it's cource and disaprear and I have had it whipe out all the fish in the tank. Luckly the time that happened I ould hat 3 fish.
You can try a fish trap. Or a plastic bottel with some bait placed in it.
Generally if you have Ick it will hit every fish in the tank. Stronger healthy fish seem to fair better. I've had it run it's cource and disaprear and I have had it whipe out all the fish in the tank. Luckly the time that happened I ould hat 3 fish.
You can try a fish trap. Or a plastic bottel with some bait placed in it.
I must watch too much court TV.
My royal gramma looks fine now, but the lights have not turned on yet. If ich flouresces in the aquarium lights, this is why it's coming and going! Could be a useful thing to mention in reference books . . .
This is what I'm going to do, and this is just to cure my paranoia, I'm going to take a turkey baster of fresh water and squirt it into his hole where he sleeps with him in there. My theory is it will burst some cysts on him and knock the eggs out of his sleeping quarters (as per HTH's post).
Again, I'll be curing my paranoia, if I really have ich, I'll be back here looking for help.
Now I'm embarrassed I admited we have pet rats.
We just call them mighty big mice.
My royal gramma looks fine now, but the lights have not turned on yet. If ich flouresces in the aquarium lights, this is why it's coming and going! Could be a useful thing to mention in reference books . . .
This is what I'm going to do, and this is just to cure my paranoia, I'm going to take a turkey baster of fresh water and squirt it into his hole where he sleeps with him in there. My theory is it will burst some cysts on him and knock the eggs out of his sleeping quarters (as per HTH's post).
Again, I'll be curing my paranoia, if I really have ich, I'll be back here looking for help.
Now I'm embarrassed I admited we have pet rats.
We just call them mighty big mice.
I do not see where "spot treating" your tank with a fresh water squirt will help. It will not hurt any thing tho. When they spawn it is into the water column. Ick has an approx 30 day life cycle. It will come and go on the fish.
That's OK I use to have a nutria. Does that give away where I am from?
That's OK I use to have a nutria. Does that give away where I am from?
If you keep fishing for answers, you will finally find someone who merely tells you what you want to hear, right or wrong, and that was, ride it out.
Whether I had ich or not the girl at In Living Color said ride it out, which I did, there's no more spots.
But just in case it got worse, I left the store with a $25 bottle of Ruby Reef reef-safe Kick-Ich. No Copper.
Anyone ever use this stuff? I think I'll put it on the swap page. No returns allowed at this store. Didn't know that until I read the receipt.
Now I have a new problem: please see my post on Shrimp molting . . .on general reef keepers forum, thanks for your help here!
Whether I had ich or not the girl at In Living Color said ride it out, which I did, there's no more spots.
But just in case it got worse, I left the store with a $25 bottle of Ruby Reef reef-safe Kick-Ich. No Copper.
Anyone ever use this stuff? I think I'll put it on the swap page. No returns allowed at this store. Didn't know that until I read the receipt.
Now I have a new problem: please see my post on Shrimp molting . . .on general reef keepers forum, thanks for your help here!
Be11yDancer":1lgmhwvl said:But just in case it got worse, I left the store with a $25 bottle of Ruby Reef reef-safe Kick-Ich. No Copper.
Anyone ever use this stuff? I think I'll put it on the swap page. No returns allowed at this store. Didn't know that until I read the receipt.
Now I have a new problem: please see my post on Shrimp molting . . .on general reef keepers forum, thanks for your help here!
Awesome product, have used it a couple of times in the past with a fully stocked coral tank.
Was reccommended to me by a lfs that uses it in thier own tanks.
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