FLUVAL EDGE 6gal
- Thread starter hydrozzz
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Sounds like a typical store owner to me. This board is about teaching people the right way of doing things, and learning from people past mistakes. It's really stupid that people should make the same mistakes that others have in the past, especially when the knowledge is out there. To think otherwise shows you have no respect for living things or the hobby.
At this point hydrozz doesn't care about anything that is posted in this thread, it's all a joke to him now, probably has been for quite sometime, but what this thread does do is put out info to other people who may want to do the same thing. Some times info is sharing in a civil manor, other times it takes a fight to get info out. Bottom line, there is a lot of good info in this thread and hopefully some people will see it and think before doing something.
acrocrazy
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Just to let you know im no longer a store owner so dont try pulling that card out. Second the knowledge is out their and some people dont learn unless they try new things thats how this hobby progresses. Trial and error are what have gotten us to this point in the hobby and you cant disagree with that. Im not saying that he is correct in his decision to purchase that fish and im not saying hes wrong its not my place to judge and its no one elses either
Hydro , I have some facts for you from my own experiences. I have a green Mandarin, it is in a 10 gallon tank alone with corals and live rock. It has been in there for over 3 years now. The 10 is actually on the small side for him and it will be going into my 65 in a few months. I also know the fastest I have ever had a tank go through the Nitrogen cycle is 2 weeks. Never seen it go faster, although I have seen it go slower. So what some people say are the normal cycles of 4-6 weeks they are correct those are the averages. But some take 2 weeks others 8 weeks. Depends on how much knowledge you have on it. Those books the BEERFISH is talking about are just the general rule of thumb, and are the guidelines for people starting out and assuring nothing will go wrong with the cycle. People on here say all the time you can't add to many fish at once. What's the difference between 1 large fish and 3-4 small fish? Not much. By the way HYDRO, how do you think the hobby got this far? by people doing experiments and trying out different things. Those companies that make lights, salt and any other crap that goes into your tank ran it all on experimental tanks first before they sold it to the public. And im pretty sure they didn't get it right the first time everytime. Just look at the whole Garlic experiments 6 years ago, they were wiping out 100 gallon tanks with one drop.
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You mayn't be a store owner anymore but your post was what a typical store would say, and that you can't deny. Unfortunately learning by killing things over and over again is not a good practice nor is it the way this hobby has progresses, nor how it should in the future, especially with the info that is out there and the easy to get it. You'll find more people leave this hobby from buying things that die, especially newbies.
As for judging people and what they do, well that's what this places and other boards are for. It's to put out information to people that maybe doing something wrong. If people are going to just sit on their hands every time someone does something that isn't right then we may as well get rid of the reply function on peoples posts.
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I really can't believe the garbage I'm reading in this thread.
First of all, I wasn't bashing anyone when this started. I said that he should get rid of the mandarin and do some research. When he argued that he knew what he was doing, I pointed out the fact that he didn't know it was a mandarin in the first place.
I'm NOT sorry if my "tone" offended anyone. This is a forum. If you're posting here, you're opening yourself up to comments. If you can't take it, don't post anything.
I will continue to correct information that is misleading, or blatantly incorrect, as it's not right for new reefers to read this garbage and think it's ok. I don't really care who I offend in the process. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't post, or expect to be corrected.
As for the original situation, even if we assume that a tank can cycle in three days (which is unheard of), it's far from an established tank, which is required for these animals. This is not an experiment, not an experienced reefer trying something new, it's a foolhardy mission to kill a fish.
First of all, I wasn't bashing anyone when this started. I said that he should get rid of the mandarin and do some research. When he argued that he knew what he was doing, I pointed out the fact that he didn't know it was a mandarin in the first place.
I'm NOT sorry if my "tone" offended anyone. This is a forum. If you're posting here, you're opening yourself up to comments. If you can't take it, don't post anything.
I will continue to correct information that is misleading, or blatantly incorrect, as it's not right for new reefers to read this garbage and think it's ok. I don't really care who I offend in the process. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't post, or expect to be corrected.
As for the original situation, even if we assume that a tank can cycle in three days (which is unheard of), it's far from an established tank, which is required for these animals. This is not an experiment, not an experienced reefer trying something new, it's a foolhardy mission to kill a fish.
Damn, am I reading this correct??? 3 YEARS in a 10 Gal.
Darwinism at its best, all living creatures were made to adapt and overcome.
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