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clarionreef

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Rich,
We are taught to think in terms of what can the most distant person do....
The dogma became...buy only netcaught fish!
So then hobbyists bought cyanide fish assured to be netcaught by the dealers who fibbed to them as they are peddlers first and anything else second.

The MAC and RPI approach have assumed that you can work backwards from enlightened consumers who then pressure the chain backwards to pressure each level in the sales sequence.
The problem is that there will not be enlightened consumers without real honest field knowledge and this cannot happen if the dealers and the reform groups fib to push their own agendas.

Consumers can work locally and not be ashamed to think globally. The internet is here and when ever in our time could a hobbyist pm a field manager like Jim in Tonga or Larry in Vanuatu?
Ferdie in the Philippines is in here sometimes and Les Villages address was also given out.
We can talk to the field like never before.
To this end....we can raise money for the good guys on the frontlines and it doesn't cost much.
They need help now.
The most direct and specific action that can make a world of difference is to support the largest complex of netcaught fisherman from the old cyanide trade and donate money to the Les Village group.
Clubs across America can help strengthen this advance guard in our trades quest to becoming the best it can be and help accelerate their progress towards becoming a primary exporter to lots of destinations.
They need the eco-tourism style guest bungalos on their beach in front of their coral farm and they need netting all the time. [ Only the frauds need it once a decade ]
They are a real co-op and as such have no rich central boss. They have modestly paid directors and no funds beyond cash flow.
If a group like them can grow to become players, central players they can compete and pressure the adjacent cyanide dealers to reform as well to enjoy the fruits of clean fishing. Fruits that hobbyist/dealers have denied them when they support the big groups that do little but feather their own nests and work their own expensive agendas.

They are refreshingly defined by independant ethics and not trade ethics.
Aquarium trade ethics are different.
"Well....the fish held up, so it the cyanide couldn't have been that bad or we only use cyanide fo the harder to collect stuff."
Villages reform for their own reasons and must not be dependant upon our vacillating , flexible 'trade' values.
As a non profit, the group that assists LES Village can recieve and account for donations...and already do.
Help em out and get in the news loop of their progress toward changing us all.
Steve
 
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Les needs a website. People are not going to send money unless there is some sort of plan for its use because we have all been snowed before. For all the suggestions you have above, there needs to be some sort of plan.
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BTW - if I am to take the netting, it needs to get to me. It is possible I can get to your work tomorrow, but I am not sure.
 

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Steve, if you put together some draft text of your proposal idea from the other thread (Mike Kings "a community, some students...") and post it here, I'm sure we could all help to fine tune it and since some of us are ex club officers, we may be able to contribute some insight on what approaches would be most convincing.-Jim
 
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Clubs are more than willing to give money, they just need some evidence that what they are giving to is legit and they want some form of follow up since they have been burned in the past. Somebody needs to head this up, or it will never get done.
 

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Steve ,
I kind of like your idea and perhaps would financially contribute as well . I need to learn more about the costs involved and how things would be implemented . I will watch the forum as things unfold.

Thank you , Race

Mitch,
Hopefully I will see you at our June, Coral Conference and we can talk . Please give it some thought.
 

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Well, I would envision some of the details might involve:

approach e-mail to club BOD's presenting projects which could be sponsored

website creation/maintenance to provide visual documentation of $ used and milestones achieved, posting financials provided by project mgrs.

reporting to projects of eco-tourism requests by sponsor club members

I would expect that one might solicit sponsor clubs for things other than cash such as the items listed above.

Obviously these are only a few quick thoughts I had and I am not putting myself in any position to tell people what to do.

Thoughts anyone?-Jim
 

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Mike,
What if aquarium clubs had adopt a reef project type fundraisers to support the work of local efforts as yours?
Then they could follow up, get reports, videos and even send reps to the site as progress kicks in.
There are hundreds of clubs and a great deal of money that changes hands in them. Not enough to support some high minded NGO but enough to make difference at the local level in projects that light candles and show the way! Your project and the Les Villlage projects could be the kick offs!
Steve
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I love the messages where people express concern about where the money would go and to what end.
Millions have gotten squandered in pseudo reform and it hardly drew a sigh much less an audit from the funders....
Hobby clubs as NGOs however, are not like the mega funders. They apparently actually want some honest, effective bang for the buck....cool.
Since real activists can produce far, far more results then top heavy office bound groups, we're talking about smaller money and more exciting results.
 

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I agree, to actually provide transparent financials from the beginning would go a long way towards making the projects feel legitimate and scaleable.
 

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Steve ,
I kind of like your idea and perhaps would financially contribute as well . I need to learn more about the costs involved and how things would be implemented . I will watch the forum as things unfold.

Thank you , Race

Great Race!
I'll get back to everyone on the Les Village project as soon as possible. I'll be talking to them as they wake up this am.
Steve
 

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