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melas

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Okay guys. . . my wife's a wedding/portrait photographer. i just bought her the new Canon Digital Rebel XT for her birthday. She was using another Canon "analog" EOS SLR prior to this. I've been reading the manual trying to figure out how to get this thing to take good shots of my tank. She's been making fun of my attempts and so pride has prevented me from asking the "expert". So here I am (not that you guys aren't experts!). I guess I've been mostly using the full auto settings without much luck. Everything I come up with is pretty bleached out. I'm a graphic/web designer and am very knowledgeable in Photoshop 5 thru CS. I've never really taken my own pictures. . . just edited them for others. Can someone with this camera or who is knowledgeable with this camera give me some hints on how I can get some nice shots in a 125 gallon reef with 14K Metal Halides? Examples of the typical settings you use would be AWESOME! Thanks so much! BTW - I've REALLY enjoyed looking through this forum. . . I never thought to look at this before today. . .WOW!! Great Job!!

I'll post some pics of what I've been getting. . .

this is the unedited image
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this is the image more the way i'd like to see it. . . i think. . .
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Okay, first thing you do is white ballance. (either ask your wife for her 18% PLASTIC grey card, or use a top from Kodak film cans (the grey is 18%))

White ballance the camera to the grey plastic in your tank.

Now set the camera on Spot metering [ * ] for close ups, or center weighted [(* )]for wider shots

I also shoot most shots at -2/3 EV.

Shut all your pumps of for a few minutes while you shoot, and use a tripod. (does that camera have mirror lock? My eos did if I used the IR remote)

Good luck!

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Some more info please. Do you shoot in Jpeg or RAW? What post processing (if much/any) do you do (tinkering in photoshop) ? What were your camera settings ? (shutter speed/aperture, ISO, etc). What other parameters have you set (if any) on the camera? (modes). I follow you set it for auto..but if you are using Jpeg there are some other choices you have (in the camera). Shooting RAW will allow you to gather the most information without loss (losslessprocess). You will however have to do much more post processing in photoshop (or like software).

Many digital SLRs are set up for the "advanced" photographer and do not have many characteristics boosted (contrast, hue, saturation, sharpness etc) boosted in the camera. The advantage (for the advanced photog) is to set these parameters themselves in post production. Most digital SLRs will recquire some boosting of saturation...contrast etc if you don't program your camera to do so from the start. If you use RAW..it doesn't matter what you set the additional settings for in the camera...as it will ignore them for the most part. RAW is the way to go IMO...in that it will record the most digital information. What you do with it afterwards (in PS) is your choice. Do not feel bad if your pictures right out of the camera are washed out..flat..colorless..fuzzy..blurry..and not kick butt. This is typically normal for a digital SLR. All these parameters need to be manipulated in your post production software. IF you are wondering why your inexpensive point and shoot seems to give you better pictures right out of the "box"..it's because of the filtering that is applied to the better digital SLRs. They do require some tinkering after the shot (unless you program these boosted parameters in before hand...and they only work in Jpeg).

Like Bingo said...use a tripod. You also want to find a happy balance between ISO speed/shutter speed and graininess in the image. You should be shooting at a high enough shutter speed to stop action (fish) and camera shake. What lens are you using? You might also consider investing in an electronic shutter release (find 'em on Ebay for like $20). This will also help reduce camera shake due to shutter movement/bounce.
You also might consider using a flash unit. Preferably an "off camera" unit or strobe. You will "usually" get best results if you can trigger the off camera flash from the top (over subject) of the aquarium. If this is not possible..whatch out for the reflection from the glass. I prefer to avoid the flash (if possible) and use a higher ISO (800-1600) and deal with the noise in PP.

You might also try bracketing your shots until you get use to the exposure settings on that new camera. Many overexpose. If you are really serious about this photog stuff..do a google search for exposure compensation rules/techniques. Also check into "white balance" info...and a technique refered to as "exposing to the right". (right of the histogram). Lots to learn about these new fangled cameras. The best way is to shoot..shoot..shoot...and take some notes to your results.

The last (an one of the most important) things you want to do is sharpening. You want to save this adjustment for LAST. Do all your cropping, resizing, boosting of parameters, etc. BEFORE you do the final sharpening of the image. You can do a search for verious sharpening techniques (if you don't already know them). Many prefer the USM (unsharp mask) in PS. The new CS2 has a "smart sharpen" feature that also works well in certain situations.

Good luck.

BMP
 

melas

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Thanks so much for the great response! I'm leaving for the outer banks tomorrow for the week. . . after I take out my gasoline loan i'll be set! when i get back i'm going to spend a few hours on this. i'll let you know how i make out. . . i'm sure i'll have more questions once i try your suggestions! THANKS!!!

ps ~ bingo i live in the harrisburg area.
 

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