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beddru

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I would like to add one :goldfish2or two :goldfish2reef safe fish that would be able to live comfortably in a tank of my size...Price is irrelevant :thrash:
I wont be adding any sps in my tank so if they pick at those I'm okay with it...


Any Suggestions!!



Situation: 26 Gallon Bow front tank...

Fish
2 Clownfish that surprisingly get along a maroon and a percula
3 Yellow tailed Damsels
A few Shrimp, some snails, some crabs etc...

Corals
Two types of Kenya trees
Two Types of Zoas colonies and a few spread out frags

Other Specs
250W viper halide clamp on lamp w/fan
H2 flowing left to right
Fluval 305 flowing right to left


Water quality is pristine thanx to a mighty mite!!
 

beddru

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You're right...

When I ordered that lighting system I was in the process of buying a 48 gallon bow front but the seller backed out. I also had intentions of keeping sps corals, but my preferences gravitated towards soft corals...


Once a year passes and it's time to replace the bulb I will go with 150w....



I have about a 3" sand bed is that enough for a diamond goby?


Anyone else with other suggestions...I should prob take a photo of the tank and post it...will do by end of week
 

morphiii

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You won't be able to keep any smaller fish until you get rid of at least 2 of the damsels.
They will fight with each other and any other smaller fish you put it in.
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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I had a 250w DE Halide on my 24 and 34 g tanks and it was not overkill at all for what I was keeping.
 

beddru

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It's not over kill, my zoas and kenya trees visibly grow. I am able to frag them and move them to my nephews tanks and my nano at will. But a 150w would prob be more reasonable since I am not carrying any sps corals...


I've had other fish in my tank before that I have given away to my nephew as gifts, and the yellow tails havent harassed at all...a pygmy angel, a scooter goby, other damsels etc...


But what I am really looking for is suggestions on "hot" fish that I can add to beautify my tank. Price isnt a deterrent...

any suggestions?
 

cowfish

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A lot of the really nice "designer" fish need a bigger tank. Angels, triggers, most wrasses and surgeonfish are out. I'd be hesitant to add a smaller goby like the yashia haze due to the other fish all ready in the tank. Maybe a flameback pygmy angel? With your lighting you could add a really nice clam - maxima or crocea.
 

beddru

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Added photos - camera phone sorry for bad quality

I was thinking about adding a clam...good suggestion

I was doing some research and came across a few fish that might work - Royal Gammas, dottybacks, blenny and gobys....those look like the only fish I can add due to tank size...


What about if I add juvenile fish that would normally need a much larger tank and keep them until they've out grown the tank then either give them away or sell them? Is that healthy for the fish or would it induce stress even as adolescents?
 

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E.intheC

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Not to be a wet blanket, but I think you're pretty much up to your limit now.. Those fish are going to grow.

I wouldn't add anything personally. If you do, you definitely need to add aggressive fish that can hold their own
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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I would not add anything either. Adding a clam can be a bad idea as well if the tank is not matured enough.
 

beddru

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Thanx so far for the input...

I always assumed the safe limit of fish in a tank is one inch of fish per gallon of water. So if I have a 26 gallon tank it could hold 26 inches of fish spread out evenly.

Yellow Tail Damsels get to be 3 Inches so thats 9" Total and Clownfish get to be 4 inches one is a maroon which gets a little bigger so lets say 9" Total. Thats 18 inches. I thought I had room for at most two fish that would grow around 3-4 inches each.

And regarding damsels being aggressive I think I got the punk-B*tch group lmao


Specs:

Tank has been running for almost a year, set it up with live sand. The live rock was purchased from a really nice guy from MR and was 3 years old when I got it. I've successfully kept a sea urchin; gave it away since kept knocking over frags... it got really annoying.

Not to sound like a douche lol but I wouldnt know if my tank can hold a clam unless I try. I wouldnt buy one and two fish at the same time. I havent added anything to the tank for 2 months.
 

E.intheC

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OK.. where to start..

the OLD "1 inch of fish per gallon of water" is a ridiculous "rule" that was actually used in the freshwater hobby. It takes really nothing into consideration. IMO, it's a made up rule with really no factual basis. You need to consider aggression, max fish size, eating habits, swimming style, territories, etc. before you throw fish in there.

Think of it this way: would you put a 20 inch puffer in your tank? Absolutely not (at least I would hope not). Or how about four, medium sized, 5 inch tangs? That would be awful as well.

You can't use those rules for saltwater or for fresh. If you're coming over from the 'freshwater world' (like I did) then you have to really scale back the amount of fish you think you can put in your tank. Freshwater fish, as a rule, are much hardier and are able to handle that bioload better. (Still wouldn't put that many fish in a tank though, regardless)

I really think you're at your limit now. Gobies are a good size choice, but they will not get along with your damsels. Maybe for a little bit, but eventually they will be killed by your aggressive fish you have there now.

Your damsels may not be aggressive now, but wait. They will get older, and 99% will get MEAN. Your yellow tailed damsels generally are less aggressive than the others.

Further, if/when your clowns pair up THEY will become aggressive. I've seen clowns take over tanks that size. My pair is starting to do the same thing in my 30 cube. They attack my hands each time I try to put my hands in the tank!

Good luck. I really hope you take our advice to heart, and do what's right for the fish.
 

sjsoto

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ok.. Where to start..

The old "1 inch of fish per gallon of water" is a ridiculous "rule" that was actually used in the freshwater hobby. It takes really nothing into consideration. Imo, it's a made up rule with really no factual basis. You need to consider aggression, max fish size, eating habits, swimming style, territories, etc. Before you throw fish in there.

Good luck. I really hope you take our advice to heart, and do what's right for the fish.


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