Maybe dustin can share his tranship contacts with us. Price is important at least for us with plants.. there are 3 large full line stores on this road, and people aren't going to pay xtra for plants like they will for quality sw fish (at least that's been my experience here, other locales may vary). Sure works that way with "bread N butter" fish like tetras and goldfish... only tetras we sell any quantity of are cardinals & rummynose cuz petco can't keep em alive.