Don't know if any of you recall the disastrous stupidity on my behalf that totally devastated my FOWLR back in January,2008.
It all began with a small outbreak of ich which I decided to attack asap. Called my local lfs for ich med. that a member had told me about, but no one had it. So I expanded my search a little further, nothing. But while on the phone with one of the lfs I was told of a med that the person used all the time for over 20 years in tanks with lr with no ill effect on the biological filtration. I drive out to pick it up, it is "CopperSafe". I say to the guy, this is impossible, it is a copper med. You cannot use copper base meds, and not kill of the biological filtration. He insist that he has been using the same med in his fowlr with no ill effects.
So, STUPID me decides that if it worked for him why wouldn't it work for me. So I buy the only bottle he had left (a gallon). Get home do a water change, clean off all the lr in fresh pre made ro/di w/salt, temp, and ph all in concordance to the par in the fowlr. Put the tank back together add the recommend dose of the Copper Safe 1/4 cup for 120 gallon tank.
Watched in horror as my Majestic kield over, followed by my cow fish the next morn, bluethroat trigger that afternoon. And the other fish looking absolutely miserable.
I immediately called CopperSafe manufactures, and left an urgent mess. A young woman called me back that afternoon. She told me that I had been lied to, CopperSafe does not claim to be safe for inverts, or biological filtration. And further more definitely not safe to use with Angelfish, eels. She stated that I had used the correct amount of the med., but NOT to add any more. And to start doing weekly water changes to rid the tank of the med, and to add a product that removes copper (don't really remember the name, think it was CopperRid). Did as directed, and I called the person at the lfs who to this day insists that CopperSafe is safe to use with live rock.:irked:
Now here is my dilema!! It has been 4 months, and I have not been able to get this tank back to what it was.
I had been doing weekly 20% water changes, running activitated carbon. Which I then switched to bi-weekly thinking less water changes would give the bio to re-develop. I also added Biozyme, and still the tank has a cloudy appearance. It did clear up briefly about a month ago, but it is back to being cloudy.
I have even scaled back my feeding to every other day. All in the hopes of fixing this.
And the WORSE part is that my tangs which were fine for the two years that I had them now have HLLE. My Desjardini Sailfin being the worse one off.
I soak their food in Selcon, Vitachem & Garlic Extreme.
So what else can I do?
Wanted to add that the other fish Dog_Face Puffer, Eel, GS Maroon Clown, Volitan Lion are all doing just fine, have even grown quite a bit over the past 4 months.
It all began with a small outbreak of ich which I decided to attack asap. Called my local lfs for ich med. that a member had told me about, but no one had it. So I expanded my search a little further, nothing. But while on the phone with one of the lfs I was told of a med that the person used all the time for over 20 years in tanks with lr with no ill effect on the biological filtration. I drive out to pick it up, it is "CopperSafe". I say to the guy, this is impossible, it is a copper med. You cannot use copper base meds, and not kill of the biological filtration. He insist that he has been using the same med in his fowlr with no ill effects.
So, STUPID me decides that if it worked for him why wouldn't it work for me. So I buy the only bottle he had left (a gallon). Get home do a water change, clean off all the lr in fresh pre made ro/di w/salt, temp, and ph all in concordance to the par in the fowlr. Put the tank back together add the recommend dose of the Copper Safe 1/4 cup for 120 gallon tank.
Watched in horror as my Majestic kield over, followed by my cow fish the next morn, bluethroat trigger that afternoon. And the other fish looking absolutely miserable.
I immediately called CopperSafe manufactures, and left an urgent mess. A young woman called me back that afternoon. She told me that I had been lied to, CopperSafe does not claim to be safe for inverts, or biological filtration. And further more definitely not safe to use with Angelfish, eels. She stated that I had used the correct amount of the med., but NOT to add any more. And to start doing weekly water changes to rid the tank of the med, and to add a product that removes copper (don't really remember the name, think it was CopperRid). Did as directed, and I called the person at the lfs who to this day insists that CopperSafe is safe to use with live rock.:irked:
Now here is my dilema!! It has been 4 months, and I have not been able to get this tank back to what it was.
I had been doing weekly 20% water changes, running activitated carbon. Which I then switched to bi-weekly thinking less water changes would give the bio to re-develop. I also added Biozyme, and still the tank has a cloudy appearance. It did clear up briefly about a month ago, but it is back to being cloudy.
I have even scaled back my feeding to every other day. All in the hopes of fixing this.
And the WORSE part is that my tangs which were fine for the two years that I had them now have HLLE. My Desjardini Sailfin being the worse one off.
I soak their food in Selcon, Vitachem & Garlic Extreme.
So what else can I do?
Wanted to add that the other fish Dog_Face Puffer, Eel, GS Maroon Clown, Volitan Lion are all doing just fine, have even grown quite a bit over the past 4 months.
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