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While some among us have questioned the methods, none of us are at conflict of the core goals of the MAMTI Project. Reef Management is an idea whose time has come. The United States however, does not once again, need to be viewed by the people of the third world countries as forcing it's will upon them. I believe that if it is given the time, the approach to field work that the MAMTI is spearheading, will yield favorable results. It may however, need to be adjusted so that it does not have effect of destroying the free market system, that American citizens such as myself hold so dear. The secrete nature of much of the planning has possibly caused undue alarm. The entire process needs to brought out into the open and I urge the MAC to learn how to become more transparent. We are talking about changes that can affect the livelihoods of a great deal of people that depend on this industry, both in this country and abroad. The consequences of banning coral reef imports need to be analysed before irreversible action is taken that destroys our industry. While I'm no expert on the supply side issues, I believe the demand side approach of the MAMTI project needs more work. We need to be very careful we do not establish monoplies that create unfair trade advantages. Changes to the MAC standards for handling need to be made if the program is to gain industry wide acceptance. More input from the average stakeholders at both the supply side and demand side are needed. Data on how fish populations recover from collecting activities should be used to determine which species can be harvested. Unsuitability lists based on aquarium longevity hold no logical place in scientific studies on sustainability. Mortalities which are an unfortunate part of any industry such as this, need to be reduced by better handling, husbandry, and advances in disease prevention and treatment. We all need to share methods that are effective in this regard, and to work together to reduces loses through out the chain of custody. Our industry when done right, is a valuable tool to educate the general public as to the wonders of nature, exemplied by the glorious coral reef dwellers that are on display and for sale in our shops. We inspire young minds to have an interest in the sciences. In short in some of the smaller towns and cities across this great land, we provide the same services that public aquariums do in the larger metropolitan areas where they are typically located. Banning the import of marine aquaium animals will destroy much of an industry that has unlocked the secretes of proper care of many of these animals in the aquarium, while educating the public, and providing an income in the countries of origin in the process. I urge you all to work to postpone this poorly written legislation, so that we can have the needed time for the MAMTI project to work in a way that does not destroy our livelihoods and the enjoyment of a large segment of our population.
Mitch Gibbs
 

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Mitch, Very well stated.

I think that lurkers to this forum should be aware of the fact that although there has been much spirited and sometimes acrimonious debate over the issues of coral reef sustainability, collection and transport of marine ornamentals; we all share the desire to see reform for the betterment of the reefs, the collectors' livelihoods, the marine ornamentals trade, and the marine aquarium hobby.

We all need to put aside our differences and cooperate to succeed in reforming the trade.

Peter Rubec
 
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How many organizations are willing to pony up on helping to guide HR 4928 in a more mutually benefical direction?

I know for a fact that the key members of at least 3 significant trade organizations will be reading this... - One of which might not have any need of assistance in achieving a "mutually beneficial" resolution here, but I guess if theres a real response from any of them it'll be pretty telling huh?


Seriously.. - Who's in?
 

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PeterIMA":3a3wxw77 said:
Mitch, Very well stated.

I think that lurkers to this forum should be aware of the fact that although there has been much spirited and sometimes acrimonious debate over the issues of coral reef sustainability, collection and transport of marine ornamentals; we all share the desire to see reform for the betterment of the reefs, the collectors' livelihoods, the marine ornamentals trade, and the marine aquarium hobby.

We all need to put aside our differences and cooperate to succeed in reforming the trade.

Peter Rubec

Peter,

It sounds simple. "We all need to put aside our differences and cooperate to succeed in reforming the trade" . I agree with you, but.... how?
 
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Jaime Baquero":2vog9523 said:
PeterIMA":2vog9523 said:
Mitch, Very well stated.

I think that lurkers to this forum should be aware of the fact that although there has been much spirited and sometimes acrimonious debate over the issues of coral reef sustainability, collection and transport of marine ornamentals; we all share the desire to see reform for the betterment of the reefs, the collectors' livelihoods, the marine ornamentals trade, and the marine aquarium hobby.

We all need to put aside our differences and cooperate to succeed in reforming the trade.

Peter Rubec

Peter,

It sounds simple. "We all need to put aside our differences and cooperate to succeed in reforming the trade" . I agree with you, but.... how?


how about contacting all the drygoods manufacturers looking at the bill, and showing them how much they too will get screwed

pijac can torpedo the entire bill into endless committee burial in one day, just by complaining about it and demanding it be modified to be more specific, or by pointing out how much it will impact the trade economically

salt manufacturers, skimmer manufacturers, all stand to lose a huge market share through reducing the ease by which hobbyists can enter the hobby

what about the hobbyists? they really are the ones who stand to lose, and they are the engine behind any pressure/counter measures needed

or mebbe the hobbyists WANT their hobby shut down? why should the industry fight to make a living off of people that don't want them to anyway? :idea:

petitions, anyone? :wink:
 

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Vitz, I think that stonewalling or torpedoing the legislation(which seems to be your suggestion) is not a good idea. It may die on its own simply because it was posted in the dying days of the Bush Administration.

However, I think it should be enacted. But, only after an implementation strategy and timetable is developed. We need to give all parties time to adjust and for the surveys and management plans etc to be created in the exporting countries. Countries like the Philippines and Indonesia will need financial and/or technical assistance. The U.S. government should create funding mechanisms to allow this to happen.

The hobby and trade in the U.S. should also help to finance the net-trainings and underwater surveys etc. Otherwise, the U.S. government will eventually (read later) close down the trade. We also need a level playing field that MAMTI does not appear to be geared to provide.

Peter
 
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Oh yeah, and by the way, no, I'm not holding my breath......
 

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