Need a little help

[Galantra]

Wanted some help in how to setup my sump I am still debating if I will connect my 100gal stock to with my system just wanted to see what will be the best use with my current system which will be a 300g & 150g tank connected to a 180g sump including a 75g frag tank. Here are photos of the sump so far that within my basement:

Also wanted to know if a Reeflo Baraccuda would be enough as a return pump or would i need more for the two tanks?

 

[tomtoothdoc]

just tagging along. i'm kinda concerned about that stand though....lots of re-enforcement added there. plus the right side looks unsupported...the edge of the tank is not directly over the vertical support???....could just be the angle of the pic.
180 gal.sump--> 72x24x17 (assuming the water height in the sump is about 17" leaving ~50 gal. for all the tanks to drain in) = 127 gal.@~8.6 lbs/gal. = almost 1,100 lbs..... that's alot of weight over that stand!?!?!
personally, i would just build a new stand....just a 2x4 frame with 5/8 ply and foam....costs like $40-50 in material. just my $0.02.:wink1:

 

[masterswimmer]

Ritchie, that sump cleaned up nicely my friend. Kudos to you.

I have to agree with Tom. The stand does not make me feel overly comfortable. I can tell you this, if the 2x4 on the top that is laying flat under the plywood was standing on its edge, I'd probably say everything would be fine. However, with the 2x4 laying on the flat it offers no support. It WILL sag and compromise the structural integrity of your stand/sump/system.

Now, for the pump question. I know the sump is in the basement and the display tanks are upstairs. How much height is the pump pushing up? How far apart are the two displays? How much pipe? How many fittings (ball valves, unions, 90's, 45's, reducers, couplings, LocLine etc.)?

In order to recommend a pump, or pumps, we need to know what forces are working against us.

Russ

 

[juiceguy]

hey G, the tank/sump looks clean..........are you going to put baffles in it?

the stand doesn't look to sturdy from the pic, i would re-think that before you start filling that up.

your pump question depends on what you are trying to accomplish but i think the barracuda split off to 2 tanks and the the added head pressure of traveling to the first floor will be to much for it

 

[Galantra]

Guys don't worry bout the stand, It bothered me as well, and I decided to rebuild it as well make it lower.

I kept it up to give me ideas and to get me to start working on the tanks... plus I am working solo didn't want to lift it to take it down.

Currently I have a Baraccuda and was going to use. I am uncertain on how I was going to run the lines. I will be plumbing everything with Spaflex PVC any imput will help me out here a base of my ideas so far:

 

[Galantra]

Russ & Frank, Thats what I was looking to hear I felt that the pump wouldn,t be enough just had to hear it from someone else. what would you suggest of a return pump? The tanks are under 21ft away from each other and from straight across to the other room you are looking about 34ft from tank to the sump. Pipe wise I won't know till I start to connect to sump. I Will be using 2 gate valves at the end of the return to the sump

Unsure if I will be using baffles since I won't have a fuge connected since I have the denitifier.

 

[albano]

Ritch, that drawing is almost identical to my present set-up, even how many feet from sump! Anyway, I would also suggest another 'extra' return piping for overflow/emergency, and depending on pump output you'll need at least 2" PVC. As you already know, I have been using an Iwaki MD100RLT for 5 years with no problems, to return to my 170g and 130g DTs

 

[Galantra]

Worst part is i had three of the Iwaki pumps and sold them off thinking I will never use them.

Alfi, your pump doesnt supply for anything else other than the two tank?

 

[albano]

You are correct, SIR. 2 tank returns, only

 

[juiceguy]

Ritch that is a lot of pipe, the only 2 pumps that come to mind is the manta ray and tiger shark by reeflo. i think the Dolphin pumps have a high head pressure but i always heard that they have problems with there seals.

reeflo has a commercial line also:
http://www.championlighting.com/home.php?cat=866

 

[Galantra]

Thanks for the info but how would I go about finding the right pump that gives me the correct flow?

 

[juiceguy]

i would contact Chris at reeflo he is great to deal with.

 

[masterswimmer]

Ritchie, I'll check it out and let you know.

 

[Galantra]

Appreciated

 

[Galantra]

Ok i got a little creative wanted to see which sump setup should i go with?

 

[albano]

If you have the room for both tanks to be open (not stacked) that is the way to go! Much easier to work on...but I would not have them so high up! (stand in pic looks about 36"+ tall)