re: Cupramine

[Anonymous]

Please advise: I was interested in buying some rare fish from a local reefer, but he informed me that they have been QT'd in Cupramine for the past 2 weeks because he had an ich outbreak. I have a reef and have NO interest in dealing with copper in my reef, so I told him I couldn't take them. Playing it safe, was that the right call? I couldn't find much experiential info on Cupramine and corals, just the product info which suspiciously dodges the residual effects on inverts and says to remove corals during treatment. Anyone work with this medication and still successfully keep inverts alive post-Cupramine? My general instinct is any copper=very bad.

 

[Anonymous]

If you quaranteen the fish and discard all of the water then the amount of copper entering your system is negligible.

Even if you just drip-acclimate the fish and don't add any of the water to your tank you'll be alright. I recommend quaranteening new fish though.

 

[Anonymous]

If you QT the treated fish in a tank with carbon filter, my guess is that after a week or two, you can be assure the fish is copper-free (well, almost free) for the reef tank.

 

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, I don't run a QT tank. All new additions go straight into the "display".

 

[Mihai]

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Unfortunately, I don't run a QT tank. All new additions go straight into the "display".

You'll probably regret this several times in the near future. A bloody 10 gal with a $14 hang of filter is all you need (if you keep your house cool, also a cheap heater).

M.

 

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, I don't run a QT tank. All new additions go straight into the "display".

You'll probably regret this several times in the near future. A bloody 10 gal with a $14 hang of filter is all you need (if you keep your house cool, also a cheap heater).

M.

You'd think that, and you'd be bloody wrong. My system has been up for over a year with no disease outbreaks. I'm sure you'll also find people who have QT's and still get disease outbreaks.

 

[Anonymous]

Eeeee...I'm not going to argue with ya on this one G, but QTs are a good investment.

Of course Mihai is probably not aware of your situation. You have an 18 gallon tank with maybe two fish. For folks (like me) with hundreds of gallons of SW and several new fish being introduced, I have to QT. One silly little clown with a spot of Ich will not endanger my expensive fish.

What fish is it anyway?

 

[Anonymous]

Eeeee...I'm not going to argue with ya on this one G, but QTs are a good investment.

Of course Mihai is probably not aware of your situation. You have an 18 gallon tank with maybe two fish. For folks (like me) with hundreds of gallons of SW and several new fish being introduced, I have to QT. One silly little clown with a spot of Ich will not endanger my expensive fish.

What fish is it anyway?

((nods in agreement with Matt))

Over the past 20 some years I've learn the hard way that for all the trouble QT is, it's less trouble than an outbreak in a display tank.

 

[Mihai]

For some reason I thought Apex had a 300 gal tank and the discussion was about that one. Of course, for a 20 gal and lower, since it only holds a few fish (2-3), a QT is not that important.

It also seems to me that Apex is not a noob, so he certainly has the risks all squared out. Some people just love to gamble .

M.

 

[Anonymous]

For some reason I thought Apex had a 300 gal tank and the discussion was about that one. Of course, for a 20 gal and lower, since it only holds a few fish (2-3), a QT is not that important.

It also seems to me that Apex is not a noob, so he certainly has the risks all squared out. Some people just love to gamble .

M.

Was it the 003 in his name? Because there is a far more sinister reason for that number...hehe.

I've known apex since we were kids so I can vouch for his non-newbness. He's the one who got me into reefkeeping in the first place

EDIT: Doh! Removed an image I wasn't supposed to show yet. My bad G.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for vouching for my competence Matt. I also apologize to Mihai for being a bit rude in my respose because I was initially a little offended by the curtness in his/her reply. I know all the advise here is very well-intentioned... I should explain that I was going to get a pair of black clowns and they were going to be the only fish in my 18g reef, thus no need to QT, IMO. I'm definitely in agreeance with all you guys that a QT is a very good precaution to take, especially as your tank gets bigger and has more inhabitants.

 

[Mihai]

My bad. I don't know why, I confused Apex with Louey that recently got the 300gal in wall tank. I have no idea why. I knew Apex lives close to me, and I was actually looking forward to invite myself to his place when he's done setting it up:

http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Hence, I assume that he's a noob that's setting up a very nice tank and is setting himself for a premature disappointment. No harm done here.

Sorry again Apex,
M.

 

[EmilyB]

I'd have no hesitation in putting those fish once acclimated into the main tank.

 

[Anonymous]

My approach is to

1. skip quarantene (unless the fish is visibly diseased)

2. open the bag, net the fish, and put it in instantly. Don't mix the water. It raises the pH (which has been lowered by respired CO2), releasing a blast of ammonia (which has been sequestered as harmless ammonium ion because it is at a lower pH).