The Industry Behind the Hobby

[Kalkbreath]

And yes Jen ......we feed all our lunare wrasses live shrimp and live fish......so yes I can attest that not only do they eat these......they eat them once a day ........in our store :wink: Many times the customer will withhold information ,as to the placement of an intended purchase................hoping to somehow pull off the impossible :roll:

 

[JennM]

It seem , that the more animals you have to contend with.......the more difficult the aspect of "holding the fish and corals becomes. Our new corals system will house over 1000 corals ,all with retail prices over 40 bucks......}I bet I have more red welsophillia then any of the wholesalers on this board} As for fish I usually bring in thirty algae blennies at a time...and while I have thirty cubes for small fish{thirty gallon cubes} I also offer ten other kinds of blennies ?{all of which algea blennies love to kick around!} so Yes, having each fish its own 75 gallon tank would be grand.....but this would mean 100 tanks just for blennies? And thats not to mention Triggers , groupers YES LUNARE WRASSES JEN, eels all of which you ought not house with blennies.....? YELLOW TANGS? I have about forty in a 200 gallon tank? if I keep less then thirty together ......the shredding begins. Keep one to a tank and they become so mean that if a customer buys one thats been housed without another tang......."it does not work well with others "in the customers tank..Even damsels are almost impossible to keep for ripping eachother to shreds? How do other stores keep say..... twenty damsels in one tank? Its only orange tails ,green cromis that I can even begin to house in a group.......and even then its only Palu and Solomon orange tails and small green {large green cromis pick teams }? Oh! and one last thing.......do you know why in the movie "nemo" you never saw more then two clownfish together at any one time in the move? Because if there had been ....the PG rating would surely been lost , due to the horrible result of having thirty clownfish that dont know each other together:wink:

I give, Kalk - you've got a bigger eel than I do. :roll:

Mama always said, "Quality, not quantity". Mama's very wise.

I don't need more Blastomussa wellsi than anybody else in town. I don't need to stock 40 yellow tangs. I'd rather have a good variety, I have a suitable number of corals and fish for my customer base, and the animals are all housed properly and comfortably. I guess you and I just have different sales philosophies, is all.

Jenn

 

[JennM]

And yes Jen ......we feed all our lunare wrasses live shrimp and live fish......so yes I can attest that not only do they eat these......they eat them once a day ........in our store :wink: Many times the customer will withhold information ,as to the placement of an intended purchase................hoping to somehow pull off the impossible :roll:

I'm not going to engage in a peeing contest. I see this could rapidly become one. Besides, Kalk has the bigger eel anyway.

I'm just going to try to keep with the intended spirit of the thread, and offer up what constructive comments that I can.

Jenn

 

[Anonymous]

Kalk--

How do you keep the ich under control with that many tangs? If just one comes in with it, doesn't that pose a problem for th other 199? We used to keep thirty together but after a few problems decided to cut back to just a few housed individually. Your point about them becoming mean when housed alone is a good one though, and one I had never heard before. I feel your pain on the damsel issue. Our solution was to not stock them.

 

[Anonymous]

My system sucks. I have sand/crushed coral/crushed shell in every tank, with pieces of live rock.

If I load up the sump with live rock, live sand, etc, and get a tremendously HUGE skimmer, can I keep all the tanks bare?

As far as stocking levels, should I have less fish than I have? I have quite a few per tank in the system...

It shouldn't be this complicated, should it?

Peace,

Chip

 

[Anonymous]

Kalk--

How do you keep the ich under control with that many tangs? If just one comes in with it, doesn't that pose a problem for th other 199? We used to keep thirty together but after a few problems decided to cut back to just a few housed individually. Your point about them becoming mean when housed alone is a good one though, and one I had never heard before. I feel your pain on the damsel issue. Our solution was to not stock them.

Actually, to the best of my knowledge his technique is an old one, used with both fresh and salt, called "displacement of aggression". A simple f/w dip really will do much in the way of prevention, though I know of no published studies, empirical evidence only.

 

[Kalkbreath]

I have never had a problem with yellow tangs and Ich...........I keep twenty tiny blue tangs to a cube as well never have a problem ............I use 12 thirty watt uV bulbs per 400 gallon system and a clear bottom.....I also knuke the tanks with bleach once a month..........My fish never set foot or finn in a wholesale system.................? :?:

 

[Kalkbreath]

Its the customers returning fish that are really scarry 8O

 

[Anonymous]

Tell me about it.
Nothing worse than coming into work and seeing a new fish, and a note, so and so was moving and brought these in. :x

 

[Smyerscough]

Tell me about it.
Nothing worse than coming into work and seeing a new fish, and a note, so and so was moving and brought these in. :x

To be quite honest we don't a problem with people trading their fish back in. Heck we have even taken fish that were purchased at other stores because the customer was sold something unsuitable for their tank. We will even lend them the trap so they can catch it.Better than having them flush it down the toilet.

I dunno , I call it customer service.

 

[Anonymous]

To be quite honest we don't a problem with people trading their fish back in. Heck we have even taken fish that were purchased at other stores because the customer was sold something unsuitable for their tank. We will even lend them the trap so they can catch it.Better than having them flush it down the toilet.

I dunno , I call it customer service.

So do we. My point was that by doing that you never know what's being introduced to your system. And most of the time it happens, it's fish that were purchased some where else.

 

[Smyerscough]

True, its the chances you take. We were bitten by that once, luckily it was in a stand alone tank. Now we put them in the quarantine system for a week

Scott

Owner Imagine Ocean