very tired

[flipit13]

maybe i might be out of line but what i am tired of are people that deleate psts cause of a discrepancy i tought this is a forum for all reefers and people looking to get into the hobby. if there is any place to be able to vent about a vendor or a seller, should we not be able to vent and show the truth. it is in the constition FREEDOM of SPEECH.... but i seee on some forums thats not the case..... just cause you have a different opinion or veiw does not constitute your deleation of a post.... we are all here for the same reason to learn and grow this hobbby bigger that it has ever been and save our " natural reefs"....... i have a business on a forum and when ever negative comes out its up to the buy to procead (spell check lol).

basically it's a buyer beware market we well most of us work hard enough for our pay checks and would rather see everyone get what they pay for

Richard Fedor

 

[marrone]

Richard

You had a problem with a group buy, you should contact the vendor or the person who organized the group buy and voice your complaint to them and not on the board. You can also leave feedback for the vendor, good or bad, about your transaction. You should also include what the out come was too.

M

 

[flipit13]

marrone

i have and have also got dave involved. all i did was post a pic and show the difference from the vendor and it got deleated...... we are all here for the same reason "growing our reefs with what WE want not what is given to us !!!!!" if you wanted and saw a pulsing zenia and was given a silver branching zenia would you be happy...... its my second admenment to voice my opinion just like the media you dont see them not saying anything bad do ya....... they also have on there news broadcasts about dead beat dads and scam artists

richard fedor

 

[marrone]

Richard

Your post was deleted because there was no reason for you to show the difference, between what you received and what was pictured on their web site, on this board. Any differences or problems should be handle directly with the vendor and not on MR. Your transaction was with WWC and should be handled with them and not played out on MR.

If you want to voice your opinion, about WWC, leave them feedback.

 

[Killerdrgn]

its my second admenment to voice my opinion just like the media

Just a quick civics lesson here, The Second Amendment of the US Constitution is the right to keep and bear arms. The First Amendment, which is what you should have stated, of the US Constitution is the Freedom of religion, of speech, of the press, to petition, and to assemble.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speechhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_presshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_petitionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly

 

[marrone]

Richard

I suggest you also read the rules on GB
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/group-buys/43100-group-buy-rules-updated.html
Group Buy Rules:

Manhattan Reefs does not permit Group Buys without Administration approval prior to posting. Manhattan Reefs is not responsible for the organization of any Group Buy or Split Shipping posted in this forum unless otherwise stated by the administration of MR. The Group Buy forum is only provided as a convenience to site members. Any issues should be handled between the group buy participants, group buy organizer and vendor. Any and all issue threads will be deleted.

Organizers are NOT PERMITTED to represent Manhattan Reefs. Any member that has been confirmed by the seller as representing Manhattan Reefs in any way during a Group Buy without permission of MR Administration may be subject to suspension or permanent removal from the site.

Group buys and split/shared shipping threads must state the following in the 1st Post of the Group Buy Thread: who is organizing the group buy, where pick up is going to be, Vendor name of the group buy supplier, breakdown of what the group buy will include as far as pricing or possible discounts and shipping cost.

 

[flipit13]

thank you killer for correcting me...... but the group buy was started HERE on MR not with dave in his house i am just stating a fact about purchase and pictures nothing else. if i show a custom painted motorcyle with blue flames and they get red flames and blue pinstripes.... they shouldnt be ablbe to go to the forum they found them from? please make sense of that for me cause i found the group buy on here not anywhere else. not like a did a search on google lets be honest and real here.... the but was generated here on MR and thast is why i am stating it here and not on myspace or yahoo or any other other reef site.

i think there are too much controsersy over what is proper and what isnt.... i have seen it toooooooooooooooooooo many times and just think everyone should be equal and not a "click"

and i screen shot copy everything i do just and say

this was blown out cause of certain people usually it wouldnt even have been looked at

 

[marrone]

Richard

Please read the group buy rules for MR that I posted. You can also leave feedback for WWC.

M

 

[flipit13]

basicaly what i am doing is looking out for the best intrest of my fellow reefers and freinds and it got blown wayyyyyyyyy out of proportion........

Richard Fedor

 

[marrone]

That's why you should leave feedback for the vendor so in the future people will know what and who they're dealing with.

 

[bad coffee]

Have you BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE WITH THE VENDOR?

that's the first step. All of the vendors I've dealt with on MR will correct a mistake as soon as notified with it. If you don't directly contact them, how do you expect them to fix your problem?

B

 

[TimberTDI]

I used to be very, very against the new group buy rules. Matter of fact I was against it up until I read this post. Mods, you will most likely not hear me complain about the GB rules again.

BTW, Manhattan Reefs is not a government subsidized website. You are not entitled to free speech.

Steven

 

[jhale]

closed for obvious reasons.

please email [email protected] with any comments

thanks.