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reefkprZ

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this has been a subject of great controversy between a friend and a PHD. I know the answers of what both claim the pH should be.

Whats yours?

RO and RO/DI users both welcome but Please state whether you have RO or RO/DI and if you can add dates for you last cartrige replacements.
 

mray

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I make distilled water and the pH is get is about 6. It is because the water is absorbing CO2 and pure water has no buffering capacity so even the slightest amount of acid or base will drop or raise it dramatically. However, since the amount of CO2 in the water is so minute, there should be no effect when mixing it with our salt.
 

meschaefer

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I never thought about the PH of my ro/di water. I wanted to measure it last night after I saw this thread, but didn't get a chance to.

I will measure it tonight and post in this thread.
 

reefkprZ

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I never thought about the PH of my ro/di water. I wanted to measure it last night after I saw this thread, but didn't get a chance to.

I will measure it tonight and post in this thread.
thanks I want to get as many answers as possible, just so i can show them all the responses, and hopefully end a debate thats been ongoing for almost a year.
 

Aqualung

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After reading this thread I checked mine.. The water was in a 1 gallon jug made last Friday..The unit is a Coralife daul stage with an added DI canister,, The test was done with a Pinpoint PH monitor ,recently calibrated..The water was not airated.. My tap water is 7.5 to 7.6..The results I got don't really make sence to me.. I got a reading og 8.5 after I let the probe set for 10 minutes.. Could this be correct??
 

rjs5134

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The answer is obvious... Since RO/DI is essentially "totally pure" water H2O, there are no buffers thereby resulting in a neutral ph of 7.0. As mray said, CO2 causes a slight shift into the 6's or even 5's due to the lack of buffer, but the slightest amount of buffer would correct this. Under perfect laboratory conditions, a vacuum which is the standard to measure by, the result would be 7.0.
 

Deanos

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:headache: From the article posted earlier:

Excerpt: Aside from the issues discussed above concerning the effluent?s pH when the DI resin becomes depleted, the final pH coming out of an RO/DI system should not significantly concern reef aquarists. Many aquarists with low pH problems have asked, for example, if their aquarium?s low pH may be caused by their replacing evaporated water with RO/DI water that they measure to have a pH below 7. In short, the answer is no, this is not a cause of low pH nor is it something to be generally concerned about, for the following reasons:
1. The pH of totally pure water is around 7 (with the exact value depending on temperature). As carbon dioxide from the atmosphere enters the water, the pH drops into the 6?s and even into the 5?s, depending on the amount of CO[SIZE=-1]2[/SIZE]. At saturation with the level of CO[SIZE=-1]2[/SIZE] in normal (outside) air, the pH would be about 5.66. Indoor air often has even more CO[SIZE=-1]2[/SIZE], and the pH can drop a bit lower, into the 5?s. Consequently, the pH of highly purified water coming from an RO/DI unit is expected to be in the pH 5-7 range.
2. The pH of highly purified water is not accurately measured by test kits, or by pH meters. There are several different reasons for this, including the fact that highly purified water has very little buffering capacity, so its pH is easily changed. Even the acidity or basicity of a pH test kit?s indicator dye is enough to alter pure water?s measured pH. As for pH meters, the probes themselves do not function well in the very low ionic strength of pure freshwater, and trace impurities on them can swing the pH around quite a bit.
3. The pH of the combination of two solutions does not necessarily reflect the average (not even a weighted average) of their two pH values. The final pH of a mixture may actually not even be between the pH?s of the two solutions when combined. Consequently, adding pH 7 pure water to pH 8.2 seawater may not even result in a pH below 8.2, but rather might be higher than 8.2 (for complex reasons relating to the acidity of bicarbonate in seawater vs. freshwater).
 

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