• Why not take a moment to introduce yourself to our members?

A

Anonymous

Guest
I've been following an (AEFW) acro eating flat worm thread on RC. A recent posting has accused the wholesalers of giving the hobbyists bugs on thier acros. Damn you wholesalers :D

IMO, the FW's are getting out of hand. More and more people coming out and saying they are infected all the time. And I bet there are literally thousands that do not even know they are infected. I think we need to start looking at the source. And I'm not talking about where they are collected (the AEFW's have been in the ocean all along). I'm talking the wholesalers. How often do wholesalers clean and bleach out their systems? I have no idea but I'm guessing it is pretty close to never! They get a sick acro with AEFW's and they don't sell it because it is dying. It sits in the system and as corals are moved in and out of those systems daily, the AEFW's are spreading at will. Eventually, the AEFW populations in the wholesaler's tanks become denser and denser as they sit on sicker acros that are infected. All the while, the AEFW's keep spreading to more and more corals going through the system. I know we as hobbyists are doing our part but what about the wholesalers?

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... ost7849787

So what do you do at your facility to insure no bugs go out? Wholesale, retail, your both in the same boat, what do you do?
 

fishinchick

Experienced Reefer
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Infestations ... I have been calling them RTD's .... (reef transmitted diseases) ;)

I've been around .... (at pretty much all of the wholesalers in Los Angles. Dont be dirty). Because I have seen so many of the L.A. Wholesalers systems first handed, I dip every coral that comes through our building and highly suggest you do the same. In our holding systems we also keep a 'staff' of clean up animals specifically for removal of problem parasites. Radiant Wrasse, Melanarus, Lettuce Nudi, Sixline Wrasse, etc. to handle common problems.

So many animals go thru the wholesalers, most of them take measures to bleach the tanks that have the fish, but very little is done from what I see to control problems with the corals/inverts. It's impossible for them to properly quarantine corals when a lot of times they don't even make it to the systems before they are snatched up. It is impossible to bleach a coral system - no matter what you do it would mess up the biological filtration and cause more problems. Of course the problem is increasing because nothing can be done about it and the problems sit in the tank and don't get taken care of.

I used to pull sundial snails off incomming zoanthids all the time at one place I used to work. I seriously doubt anyone else did because they kept asking me what I was doing. I found a huge nudibranch problem in one of the soft coral tanks that nobody else had seen or identified.

I've seen multiple nudibranch invasions of various types, red bugs, flat worms, ugly mother-in-laws .... you name it - all at wholesalers.

The LFS should always do some type of dip, always watch their corals for trouble, and most of all - the end user (hobbyist) should very likely practice procedures to quarantine and dip their corals.
 
A

Anonymous

Guest
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I used to pick out sundials when I was in wholesale :D And any other little bad thing that crossed my way. heck, I'd even try to remove manajos when I saw them :lol:
 
A

Anonymous

Guest
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
heh my question is why the hobbyists are claiming or thinking that it's solely the wholesaler's responsibility to do so

since when is any critter capable of guaranteed as being 'perfect' ? ;)

i'd make the same effort-=simply because it makes sense on so many levels (including repeat biz from cust's who get clean livestock) but it's still certainly not an issue that should garner any 'blame' from the end purchaser's side

it's like blaming the store for ich when you don't q yerself, prior to intro to the main system ;)

kinda like blaming a ***** for her pup's fleas ;)
 

Sponsor Reefs

We're a FREE website, and we exist because of hobbyists like YOU who help us run this community.

Click here to sponsor $10:


Top