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| Trouble Maker! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Forks Township Pa.
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I do custom painting for a living, I'm not an expert on painting unusual substrates, but I can tell you getting anything other than clear powdercoat to stick to the chrome will be very hard. Chrome is extremely hard and smooth, there isn't anything for the laquer to bite into, therefore it will chip extemely easy.
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| The Lurker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Williamsburg, Brooklyn
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can we get a pic of the tank? I dont think i've ever seen one of these, must be before my time ![]()
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| paper bags are fun! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: G.V NYC
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Reefer Ratings: (43) Friends: (32) | well what if you oiled the chrome everyday ![]() I have a chrome cart from the 70's that's got some rust on it from just sitting in my apt. I could imagine that exposed to salt water chrome could get trashed pretty quick.
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| Owner of Aquatic Creation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chelsea N.Y.
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Personally I've only used these tanks for freshwater aquarium wouldn't trust them in a marine environment. The calk like sealant they used back then doesn't realy last so long, so I'd suggest resealing it with silicone and set up a kick ass planted FW aquarium.
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| www.saltwatercritters.com Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County
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Wow, I haven't seen one of these chrome/slate bottoms in years.......until just this past Saturday. I was in a LFS down near Philly, they had at least a dozen of them on display in various sizes. Brought back some memories. I would also avoid the SW in this application. Not because of the copper, but because of the rusting and pitting of the chrome/SS.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: greenpoint brooklyn
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believe that there is a video where Rosario LeCorte demonstrates the process. He claims that it takes about 10 minutes to flow seal almost any tank, given a little practice. I tried it some twenty or so years ago, it was a real mess. So I never actually got a little practice. Apparently the secret is getting the stuff hot enough that it flows into the seems. I usually rebuild my stainless tanks as follows: 1 cut out any tar that is still inside the tank 2 clean the tank until it is spotless. ALL OR JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE WHITE DEPOSITS ON THE GLASS NEAR THE SEAMS MUST BE DISSOLVED OR SCRAPED OFF BEFORE SEALING. 3 have a piece of glass cut that will fit into the bottom of the tank covering the slate. SILICONE WILL NOT STICK TO SLATE FOR VERY LONG. -ABOUT 2 YEARS MAX- The slate is porous and the water will eventually work its way under the silicone. The bottom of the tank must be lined. 4 put dabs of silicone on the slate about every 2 to 3 inches apart this will support the glass liner. 5 seal the edges of the bottom leaving a little space for air to get out and float in the new liner. 5 seal all of the seams glass to glass. 6 seal under the top rim of the tank to prevent siphoning under the top of the frame. 7 from the outside fill any gaps in the tar with silicone to support the panes. 8 let dry for at least 2 days. Broken glass can be replaced and floated in with silicone. But it takes a lot of silicone and a lot of time and effort. Most smaller tanks with broken glass are just not worth the effort. About 20 years ago I found a 5 gal tank in my fathers basement. It was broken by a large bullfrog in the late 1960's and as it had been on my project list for over 3 decades. I finally rebuilt it. The frame had been crushed as something had fallen on it. I straightened the frame and had new glass cut, removed all of the loose tar and replaced it with silicone. Cost about $4.00 for glass. $2.50 for silicone. About 5 hours for cleaning, strip down, loose tar removal, broken glass removal, frame straightening and sealing. The tank is has held water for at least 2 years. I designed a custom drop in 1/4 inch Plexiglas hood for it at a cost of another 3 dollars and about 2 hours of work. It is 2 inches shorter than a 5.5 gal tank and fits where a 5.5 gal tank would not, so it is perfect for the application it is now being used for. But I would not recommend this kind of heroic effort. If you have space for a standard size tank a 5.5 gal all glass tank only costs about $10.00 and canopies are readily available for about another $7.00 pre-made. I might add that the silicone does not stick very well to the metal frame around the top of the tank. So handle it with care to prevent peeling it off. A metal frame tank, properly sealed with silicone, should last just as long as an all glass tank. it will be more durable as the frame will support or protect it. Last edited by FRY; 10-23-2006 at 07:39 PM. |
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| Member Join Date: Sep 2006
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Wow, guys, thanks for all the input. Yep, my dad's advice was to do a clear powdercoat on it, but since it has to be cured in an oven, and I don't have access to a 55g size oven, that isn't a possibility. And yes, it is exactly the tank in those photos--thanks for putting that up there (being the Luddite I don't have a digital camera). I do have a FW planted tank that could be upgraded to the 55, but geez a reef would have been sweet! Well, I guess I'll just have to look for another tank for my 2nd reef...and then another apartment to fit them all... ![]() |
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