Hoeven's Wrasses(Melanurus)

**nanoreefer22** · 07-31-2008, 12:23 AM

So I bought a pair of these little guys and after doing lots of research, I saw that a lot of the ones online have much different coloration. I was wondering if this is something they develop over time as they mature. Mine looks like this right now...
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...85&pcatid=2285
And online they look like this, assuming it's a mature male.
http://www.marinecenter.com/media/ph...9E68177620.jpg

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, if in fact i do have a true pair, will the male's coloration end up like the second picture?

-Kris

Lenny718 · 07-31-2008, 12:32 AM

I'm not sure about the males coloration but there defiantly cool little fish, Best of luck with your new pair

prattreef · 07-31-2008, 01:43 AM

The ones you have are in juvi coloration. If there is a male, it will eventually turn into the coloration in the second pic.

**KathyC** · 07-31-2008, 02:38 AM

Pretty fishies Kris..best of luck with them

**nanoreefer22** · 07-31-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KathyC


	Pretty fishies Kris..best of luck with them

Thanks Kathy!!

Lenny,
They do have cool little traits. For some reason I like watching them bury into the sand when the lights go out

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Randy,
Is it somewhat safe to assume that since they are coexisting with no drama that it might be a male and female? One of them is significantly smaller than the other. One is maybe 3inches where as the other is 1.5-2inches and with much less body.

**Deanos** · 07-31-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefer22


	Is it somewhat safe to assume that since they are coexisting with no drama that it might be a male and female? One of them is significantly smaller than the other. One is maybe 3inches where as the other is 1.5-2inches and with much less body.

IMO, if they are both juveniles, they wouldn't fight until they approach maturity, regardless what sex they are.

**nanoreefer22** · 07-31-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Deanos


	IMO, if they are both juveniles, they wouldn't fight until they approach maturity, regardless what sex they are.

Thanks Dean

**nanoreefer22** · 07-31-2008, 11:02 AM

Another question, you guys think the Wrasses would attack/kill peppermint shrimp or cleaner shrimp that were of good size?

prattreef · 07-31-2008, 11:15 AM

I did a little more research and that appears to be female coloration. One might still change into a male.

Aquatic Express · 07-31-2008, 11:27 AM

If that is a Hoeven's wrasse why are they calling it a Halichoeres melanurus? Shouldnt it be Halichoeres Hoeveni?

07-31-2008, 12:23 AM	#1
nanoreefer22 YoYa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Park Slope, Brooklyn Posts: 10,031 Reefer Ratings: (75) Friends: (19)	Hoeven's Wrasses(Melanurus) So I bought a pair of these little guys and after doing lots of research, I saw that a lot of the ones online have much different coloration. I was wondering if this is something they develop over time as they mature. Mine looks like this right now... http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...85&pcatid=2285 And online they look like this, assuming it's a mature male. http://www.marinecenter.com/media/ph...9E68177620.jpg I guess what I'm trying to ask is, if in fact i do have a true pair, will the male's coloration end up like the second picture? -Kris __________________ Kris MR Team

07-31-2008, 12:32 AM	#2
Lenny718 LFS Owner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, Cropsey Ave 11214 Posts: 1,188 Reefer Ratings: (13) Friends: (30)	I'm not sure about the males coloration but there defiantly cool little fish, Best of luck with your new pair __________________ Saltwater City For all your salt and fresh water needs! 1859 Cropsey Ave Brooklyn NY 11214 718-266-0600 www.saltwatercitynyc.com Open 7 Days 10am-7pm

07-31-2008, 02:38 AM	#4
KathyC Rafflemeister Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Barnum Island Posts: 4,711 Reefer Ratings: (80) Friends: (53)	Pretty fishies Kris..best of luck with them __________________ Don't just treat the symptom, remedy the cause!

07-31-2008, 11:02 AM	#8
nanoreefer22 YoYa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Park Slope, Brooklyn Posts: 10,031 Reefer Ratings: (75) Friends: (19)	Another question, you guys think the Wrasses would attack/kill peppermint shrimp or cleaner shrimp that were of good size? __________________ Kris MR Team

07-31-2008, 11:27 AM	#10
Aquatic Express Vendor Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ridgewood Posts: 1,872 Reefer Ratings: (41) Friends: (24)	If that is a Hoeven's wrasse why are they calling it a Halichoeres melanurus? Shouldnt it be Halichoeres Hoeveni? __________________ 10% off ALL corals for MR members! Aquatic Express Inc 451 Grandview Ave(Grandview and Himrod) Ridgewood, NY 11385 718-456-3020 www.aquaticexpress.com Mon-Tue 11am-8pm Wed-CLOSED Thurs-Fri 11am-8pm Sat 11am-7pm Sun 11am-6pm Need installations and maintenance service? We can also order any dry goods that you are looking for as well as specific corals or fish! If you have any questions, please e-mail us info@aquaticexpress.com

07-31-2008, 01:43 AM	#3
prattreef Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,919 Reefer Ratings: (17) Friends: (14)	The ones you have are in juvi coloration. If there is a male, it will eventually turn into the coloration in the second pic.

07-31-2008, 11:15 AM	#9
prattreef Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,919 Reefer Ratings: (17) Friends: (14)	I did a little more research and that appears to be female coloration. One might still change into a male.

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