wellsophyllia not feeling so well

chasesng · 05-11-2006, 09:27 PM

in fact i can now see a little of its internal skeleton. i've only had it for around 5 weeks. first 3 weeks or so it would swell to double or triple its nitetime size. now it stays the same size nite and day.

no trace of nitrates,
alk at 8.6,
phosphates below .03ppm,
calcium around 420
all taken with salifert

only source of change was that i began with dosing of B-Ionic calcium buffer about 2 weeks ago. calcium was around 380 and wanted to raise it. then one of my clown's died and it happened to be the same fish that started to nuzzle around in the wellsophylia. next thing i know the wellsophyllia stops swelling and my coco worm stopped hanging outside his tube. its been almost a week since the coco has come out, altho wife says he came out for a while today.

any ideas?

marrone · 05-11-2006, 10:20 PM

Have you been feeding it?

chasesng · 05-11-2006, 10:53 PM

i didnt think he required direct feeding.

that having been said, we have sacrificed the turkey baster and tried on several occasions (since he stopped swelling) to squirt some food on him. no visible reaction tho

of note, coco worm has finally come out of his tube after about a week. dont know if there's a connection tween what scared coco and well, but i've got my fingers crossed.

maybe the perc was picking at the well

marrone · 05-11-2006, 11:06 PM

Try feeding it some pieces of shrimp,scalop, clam or squid. Wait until night, after the lights are out or just before they go out. The tentacles should be out at that point and then you can feed it.

Reefer420 · 05-12-2006, 01:51 AM

i was just having a problem w/ my brain as well.. the ca and alk in my tank are low and I'm trying to raise them..

but I don't think thats teh problem.. for some reason it goes through periods of a week or so where it does not look good, but then will open right up and look better than ever for a long time...not sure what that means.

it fell on some zoos the other week and sat there (face down) all day until I got home... didn't look good for at least 3 weeks, but now opens up as normal!

masterswimmer · 05-12-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reefer420


	it fell on some zoos the other week and sat there (face down) all day until I got home... didn't look good for at least 3 weeks, but now opens up as normal!

If it fell on some zoos, that translates to being 'higher' than the zoos. Ideally, Wellsophyllia's should be on the sandbed. Unless you've got a raised sandbed, there really shouldn't be any way for the Wellso to fall.

That could be part of the reason yours isn't doing well. Relocate it to the sandbed and see how that works.

swimmer

tomzpc · 05-12-2006, 10:44 AM

My clowns stressed out my wellsophyllia big time before they moved onto hosting in my colt coral, so that may have something to do with it. It took awhile to recover.

You also didn't mention your lighting. These guys don't like strong light and they also should be down on the sand like Russ mentioned.

Reefer420 · 05-12-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterswimmer


	If it fell on some zoos, that translates to being 'higher' than the zoos. Ideally, Wellsophyllia's should be on the sandbed. Unless you've got a raised sandbed, there really shouldn't be any way for the Wellso to fall. That could be part of the reason yours isn't doing well. Relocate it to the sandbed and see how that works. swimmer

brilliant deduction watson! Just have to think about lighting- w/ PC lights the brain is doing fine in the middle of the tank... how do you think it would fare on the bottom?

Reefer420 · 05-12-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tomzpc


	My clowns stressed out my wellsophyllia big time before they moved onto hosting in my colt coral, so that may have something to do with it. It took awhile to recover. You also didn't mention your lighting. These guys don't like strong light and they also should be down on the sand like Russ mentioned.

i thought that I had read that brains (except for trachs.) like medium-higher light levels??

tomzpc · 05-12-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Reefer420


	i thought that I had read that brains (except for trachs.) like medium-higher light levels??

Platygyra(sp?), yes. Favia or Favites, sometimes. Wellsophyllia are more like Trachyphillia(they actually have been reclassified as trachs IIRC)though and don't care for strong light and should always be placed on the bed of the aquarium. Occasional feedings are beneficial and recommended but not always necessary.

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chasesng Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: stamford ct Posts: 182 Reefer Ratings: (3) Friends: (0)	wellsophyllia not feeling so well in fact i can now see a little of its internal skeleton. i've only had it for around 5 weeks. first 3 weeks or so it would swell to double or triple its nitetime size. now it stays the same size nite and day. no trace of nitrates, alk at 8.6, phosphates below .03ppm, calcium around 420 all taken with salifert only source of change was that i began with dosing of B-Ionic calcium buffer about 2 weeks ago. calcium was around 380 and wanted to raise it. then one of my clown's died and it happened to be the same fish that started to nuzzle around in the wellsophylia. next thing i know the wellsophyllia stops swelling and my coco worm stopped hanging outside his tube. its been almost a week since the coco has come out, altho wife says he came out for a while today. any ideas?

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05-11-2006, 10:20 PM	#2
marrone In the Forest Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The BIG City Posts: 5,554 Reefer Ratings: (39) Friends: (6)	Have you been feeding it?

05-11-2006, 10:53 PM	#3
chasesng Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: stamford ct Posts: 182 Reefer Ratings: (3) Friends: (0)	i didnt think he required direct feeding. that having been said, we have sacrificed the turkey baster and tried on several occasions (since he stopped swelling) to squirt some food on him. no visible reaction tho of note, coco worm has finally come out of his tube after about a week. dont know if there's a connection tween what scared coco and well, but i've got my fingers crossed. maybe the perc was picking at the well

05-11-2006, 11:06 PM	#4
marrone In the Forest Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The BIG City Posts: 5,554 Reefer Ratings: (39) Friends: (6)	Try feeding it some pieces of shrimp,scalop, clam or squid. Wait until night, after the lights are out or just before they go out. The tentacles should be out at that point and then you can feed it.