Ozone Users Please Read!!!

[kimoyo]

Not trying to give an opinion, just trying to keep yall informed. Please take a look at this Thread. Take Care.

 

[herman]

Like with anything, take the precautions and do it right. Its that simple. In our hobby we deal with a lot of toxic things.

 

[kimoyo]

In our hobby we deal with a lot of toxic things.

?? On the level as this?

 

[herman]

as in for humans or the tank? Its been a very well known fact, that ozone is this harmful. As you know it is also very easy to take care of residual ozone.
If you happen to dump and ozonizer on a seaclone without any precautions, well what can I say. Thats just ignorance! I feel bad for all these people freaking out but like a lot of things on RC they freak out too much. Its not like I have the ozonizer running freely in a closed room. Thats what you have to do to reach toxic levels.

Run the ozone in a reactor and make sure that every bit of it runs through a charcoal filter. And make sure you use ozone safe materials. All ozone will have oxidized upon exit.

Even the ionic breeze posed problems with their innitial designs due to ozone hazards. They too added charcoal on the exit.

But then again, I smoke like a mutt and drink like a gutter. I have other stuff to worry about :biggrin::givebeer:

Also: we do not need 500mg/hr ozonizers as they sell all over the place. 1/10th the size will suffice for most of our tanks. I have always used a sander 50mg/hr. So I have no worries.

 

[NYPDFrogman]

I'm a guy with damaged lungs! any level of detectable ozone and I can feel it!
This is exactly why I discourage the use of Ozone in a skimmer.
I use my Ozone in a closed reactor, the effluent flows through a reverse flow reactor filled with almost 2lbs of carbon.
I dont smell any ozone at all with my set up!

 

[twinreef]

I use my Ozone in a closed reactor, the effluent flows through a reverse flow reactor filled with almost 2lbs of carbon.
I dont smell any ozone at all with my set up!

can you explain this or show us a pic of one. i run ozone. and would like to try and build one.

Jorge

 

[jhale]

what's wrong with a .3% in early death when you can have perfectly clear water?

I agree with Frank and Herman, if you know what your doing ozone will not pose a problem in the home. and for those who don't take time to understand what they are playing with ozone will just help weed the gene pool of stupidity.

 

[herman]

what's wrong with a .3% in early death when you can have perfectly clear water?

I agree with Frank and Herman, if you know what your doing ozone will not pose a problem in the home. and for those who don't take time to understand what they are playing with ozone will just help weed the gene pool of stupidity.

HA HA HA HA HA HA !! :tongue1::biglaugh::tongue1:You is funny man!!!

 

[kimoyo]

what's wrong with a .3% in early death when you can have perfectly clear water?

0.3% per 0.01ppm of ozone.

 

[jhale]

yes I know I was simplifying things...

 

[kimoyo]

yeah but thats 3% for 0.1ppm of ozone. Seems like thats important :lol2:.

 

[jhale]

I was trying to be too clever, it did not work :redface:

my first statement was supposed to represent one of the people who would not check that their ozone was set up properly. :skull:

 

[NYPDFrogman]

can you explain this or show us a pic of one. i run ozone. and would like to try and build one.

Jorge

quick explianation
water is pumped from my sump into the reactor
water flows through a drip plate down through the bio balls where it is broken up into droplets and reacts with the Ozone being pumped into the reactor.
treated water collects at the bottom the pressure in the reactor (between 3-4 PSI above atomosphric pressure) forces the water up the center tube.
water than flows to a reverse flow reactor filled with carbon. once thewater flows through the carbon ozone is removed from the effluient and returned back to the sump than the tank.

air is pumped through the air drier (large blue canister filled with silica beads to absorb moisture) through the ozone generator than into reactor.
the ozone generator is controled by a ORP meter.

the beauty of this set up is no ozone is released into the atmosphere, when the ozone is off the reactor no acts as a O2 reactor, and your continuously running water through pressurized carbon. win win

 

[NYPDFrogman]

more pics of reactor before it was set up

 

[jhale]

most impressive.

my one question is that I have always heard using carbon in a reactor
shortens it's life. in that it's so efficient it sucks up the maximum amount of pollutants very quickly. have you found this to be the case?
I'm just worried the carbon since it's always running would be less effective at removing the ozone over time. how often is it changed?

 

[twinreef]

thanks for the pics. what size tube did you use for the reactor and the silica beads.

Jorge

 

[fritz]

Melev did a piece on Ozone usage on his reefcast site. He mentioned that he doesn't use any ozone but when he checked his ORP it was right on target. He wondered what others were doing that they required ozone to raise the ORP when his was already so high.

(disclaimer-> I know nothing about ozone usage)

 

[NYPDFrogman]

most impressive.

my one question is that I have always heard using carbon in a reactor
shortens it's life. in that it's so efficient it sucks up the maximum amount of pollutants very quickly. have you found this to be the case?
I'm just worried the carbon since it's always running would be less effective at removing the ozone over time. how often is it changed?

I change it just about once a month

Melev did a piece on Ozone usage on his reefcast site. He mentioned that he doesn't use any ozone but when he checked his ORP it was right on target. He wondered what others were doing that they required ozone to raise the ORP when his was already so high.

(disclaimer-> I know nothing about ozone usage)

my orp was right on target before I added Ozone good husbandry and a good skimmer will contribute to that. I use the ORP controller so I dont over use the O3 It will not raise ORP like everyone believes
Ozone put me over the top as far as water clarity

thanks for the pics. what size tube did you use for the reactor and the silica beads.

Jorge

3" tube it's 20" high silica came from Aqua farmers

 

[herman]

Now that is an awesome ozone setup. ANyone with any worries need only look there. Great Job man!!!!

 

[NYPDFrogman]

Thanks! I'm going to make a set up and see what cost is and offer this set up on MR