Whats the largest sump i can put in a standard oceanic 120 stand

[doma25]

THE STANDARD OCEANIC STAND FOR A 120, IS 49 x 25 x 32 BUT I NEED HELP DETERMINING WHAT IS THE BIGGEST SUMP I CAN SQUEEZE IN THERE WITHOUT HAVE TO INSERT THE SUMP THROUGH THE BACK. I CAN REMOVE THE DOORS BUT I AM NOT SURE IF I CAN FIT A 48 INCH SUMP INTO THE TANK. ANY FEEDBACK IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!

I DONT REALLY LIKE THE TRIGGER-SYSTEMS SUMP SO I WANT TO MAKE A DYI SUMP

I HAVE BAD SPACIAL VISION!

 

[MatthewScars]

http://www.bathpacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tape_measure.jpg

and

http://www.anapsid.org/resources/tanksize.html

 

[doma25]

haha thanks! but i am away from home and wanted to see other peoples experiences.

 

[TheHun]

http://www.bathpacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tape_measure.jpg

and

http://www.anapsid.org/resources/tanksize.html

LoL

 

[motortrendz]

i think had a 40 breeder as a sump under mine when i had it..

 

[rkaragozler]

IMO it depends on how much room you want left in the stand after the sump, If you take up every inch of space where would you put every thing else?

 

[roc5288]

I have a 40 breeder under 120g works great.

 

[doma25]

i have a cabinet right next to the tank and that is were all my equipment is, i was just wondering if i could fit a 75 gallon into the stand or would it not squeeze through.

I want to have to have a nice big sump with a lot of extra water to the system.

The sump i have in mind which i don't know how to design yet would have one return pump for each over flow. So at both ends of the sump have a return and in the middle have the water from the overflows going into the sump and also have the protein skimmer and Refuge in the middle as well

 

[doma25]

is that possible?

 

[rkaragozler]

i have a cabinet right next to the tank and that is were all my equipment is, i was just wondering if i could fit a 75 gallon into the stand or would it not squeeze through.

I want to have to have a nice big sump with a lot of extra water to the system.

The sump i have in mind which i don't know how to design yet would have one return pump for each over flow. So at both ends of the sump have a return and in the middle have the water from the overflows going into the sump and also have the protein skimmer and Refuge in the middle as well

even with a 48" wide tank this design would not work well, you would need to have 2 nice size chambers, as well as 2 ato, and to try to control the amount of flow between the center and the 2 sides would not be the same

 

[doma25]

ok thanks! but how about changing my flex tubing to pvs while there is water in the display tank is that hard?
I just dont like the look of the rubber tubing... i really want a nice uncluttered clean look.. how would you suggest with a dual overflow to setup a 75 gallon sump/refugium with a protein skimmer


what

 

[rkaragozler]

you can drain the overflows without disturbing the dt. are you sure a 75 would fit under the stand did you measure it out? if so you can have a fuge on 1 side return in the middle and skimmer on the other side, or you can go skimmer, fuge return.

 

[doma25]

i have to see if i can fit it in thats why its stressful! if i switch to pvc do i need pvc glue? how long would it take to dry especially cause it a reef tank

 

[dacaptain78]

A 75 gallon will most likely not fit lengthwise in the stand. Even if it does fit it will have to be put in through the back of the stand. Also the 21 inch height would make it difficult, if not impossible, to perform maintenance on the sump and it's components. Imagine trying to squeeze a skimmer through the space between the cabinet doors and top of the sump.

I would get a 50 breeder if you can find one, 36x18x18. You could use the extra space in the stand for your ATO reservoir.

 

[doma25]

ok if i use the 40 breeder how would i set it up! I have the Octupus xp2000 sss protein skimmer, to overflows so, would like a refuge
and do i need pvc glue?

 

[dacaptain78]

http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html

That page has over a dozen links to various sump configurations. See which configuration suits your needs best and mimic it.

If you plan on plumbing with PVC or flexible (spa) PVC you will need to use PVC cement.

 

[Tarazed]

I had a 40 breeder with my 120, worked great. Had return center, left fuge, right skimmer.

 

[doma25]

tarazed- where did you put your filter bags/media?

 

[doma25]

how long does pvc glue take to dry before being able to put the tank back on

 

[rkaragozler]

how long does pvc glue take to dry before being able to put the tank back on

the pvc bond takes about 3 minutes but i would wait about an hour before running it.