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Deanos

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After getting tired of buying and lugging purified RO water from K-Mart, I purchased a TDS meter. The tap water here in Co-Op City averages 45-50ppm. How many stage unit should bring those numbers to 0ppm? Also, since I live in an apartment, I'd want a system which easily connects to my spare bathroom faucet.

This website seems to have great prices: Dervich

Any suggestions? Thanks

Dean
 

jhale

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there are a ton of places on line to buy now. most of them are the same. I'd never seen the site you found Dean, but the units look as good as all the other ones.
 

Deanos

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Jonathan...I would hope a 6 stage brings you down to 0. I'm trying to see how few stages I can get away with and still reach 0. So far, Brett has me down to a 4 stage.
 

House of Laughter

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Dean,

You should be able to get away with the 3 stage - the one with the Carbon Block, the RO TFC Membrane and the DI cartridge. That should just about do it for you. The fundemental problem with these units is that each is missing one of the necessary others.

The ideal situation (IMHO) is to have a 1 micron block first - this will filter out most of the larger items, the carbon block grabs all the chemicals etc the RO TFC membrane fine tunes it to close to, if not "0" and the DI polishes it to zero if not already there.

Difference with these is that each stage takes care of the stage before it, meaning, that if you go with this 3 stage, the first is a carbon block, which doesn't take out much of the particle matter, so then it runs through the RO membrane (the most expensive of the three at $100 each) and then polishes through the DI.

I would get the three stage with 1 micron carts for the first stage, this will extend the life of your RO membrane and DI cart. BTW, the micron carts are like $5.99

As a point of reference, my unit has an RO bypass which runs the water through the micron cart, the carbon block and the RO membrane (missing the DI) and it brings my 277 tds reading down to 5

That being said, I bought a unit from www.aquaticreefsystems.com I spend hours sometimes on the phone with them - you won't get this from a $75 unit. I paid about $220 for mine and I bought the pressure meter, the ro bypass and a TDS meter ($40 value).

So, in short, this is one of those I firmly believe you spend the extra few bucks now and get it back later. My water has NEVER been above "0" in 3 years of reefing FWIW.

House
 
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As House stated a 3 stage is all you need. I have the same TDS from the tap. My 60gpd Hi-S Maxxima unit brings it down to 0. Unless you are taking water from the sewage plant, i think you will be fine. Some people that live in areas of high TDS might need more stages. The good thing is NYC has some of the best tap water around.
 

cali_reef

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I thought the three stage is 1) particle filter, 2) carbon filter, and 3) RO membrane. DI would be the fourth stage?

Get a RO\DI unit, one with a clear housing, seeing your filter being clogged up will remind you when they need replacement. A dual TDS meter is a good option, cost less $30 but will save you a lot on DI refills. Make sure you don't get one from the site you linked if you do decide to get a unit with a DI, their DI are pretty small and looks like you can't see thru the housing.

How much DI resin do you guys go thru? I just received about 5 pounds of it from a LA group buy, I am thinking about getting the contact and doing one in the future.
 

Deanos

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Thanks everyone!! I now have an excellent point of reference of where to start looking. Jim, I think you're right...I won't skimp on a unit when the total difference in price is less than $100.00.

Dean
 

House of Laughter

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By the way, NYC tap water has consistently been voted number 1 water in the country.

Cali, yes, I agree on the 3 stages, but given the link deanos provided, I think he should go without the carbon block - but hopefully he'll buy one from ARS - great units and unmatched service.

Also, I bough mine 3 years ago and still haven't replaced my ro membrane - have one in house just in case it craps out quickly.

House
 

alrha

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can you store it in the house? i thought they dry up or something like that?

i have a 4-stage from marine depot (they offer 10% off all replacement filters if you bought the unit from them). my TDS comes out to 0.
 

Unresistible Blue

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Word to the wise -> more stages doesn't always mean better treatment. Think about what is in each stage, and long term operational cost of the system given the manufacturer's configuration.
 

inline6

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Guys, i have a question.
I have a 6 stage ro/di filter system. i know i don't need that many stages, is it possible to take out the filter media thats no longer needed when it has been exhausted and use the empty chamber as a pass through?
 

jhale

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it depends what stage you want to skip.
in mine the filters line up as,
10 micron sediment, 5 micron sediment, 1 micron carbon, RO membrane, then it splits to a post DI filter for the tank water and a post polishing filter for drinking water. personally I'd rather have more stages than less. but if I had to remove one it would be one of the sediment filters.
 

Unresistible Blue

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inline6 said:
Guys, i have a question.
I have a 6 stage ro/di filter system. i know i don't need that many stages, is it possible to take out the filter media thats no longer needed when it has been exhausted and use the empty chamber as a pass through?

In some cases, yes. There are systems being sold out there for instance that have a GAC stage after the DI. Hmm... Think about that one for a minute.

Some systems have two vertical GAC stages and a small horizontal DI - We work with lots of folks to replumb those systems to go with a single high quality carbon block rather than the two GAC's, then use the empty vertical stage for a refillable DI cartridge and pith the horizontal DI.
 

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