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Chris31

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So I decided to try an cycle my tank without using fish just because it is always a nightmare to get those dam damsels out. So I dumped in about 15 lbs of live rock and 2 bottles of bio-spira (enough for 60 gallons I have a 75 gallon tank) since I put it in about a week ago I still haven't did not see a spike in anything I added another bottle today so I have now added enough for 90 gallons of water. has anybody else
Had this problem with bio-spira? Any thoughts on this at all?
 

KathyC

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Yes but does not mean your take is cycled correct?
It may be advertised that way, but you need to understand what it is/does.

Without explaining the entire nitrogen cycle here..the point of this stuff is you are adding the types of bacteria that consume the bacteria that make up the first 2 parts (of the 3 parts) of the cycle.
The bacteria in this bottle is what makes up the 'nitrates', and they consume the nitrites - which consumed the ammonia.

If you never get to the point of having any ammonia or nitrates, then what is the point in adding bottles with large numbers of nitrates?

Have you tested the water? What are your parameters for ammonia, nitrites & nitrates?

There is also NO need to cycle a tank using live fish - as that is cruel to the fish. Many people put a fresh (raw) supermarket cocktail shrimp into a media bag (in the event it falls apart) and let it sit in there and rot for a few days to create the ammonia, along with a small live rock to introduce the other bacterias you will need (like a starter culture)
Once the ammonia level rises, the nitrites will consume the ammonia.
Then the nitrates consume the nitrites.
THEN your cycle is complete and you haven't killed/harmed any fish.

(you added only the last step in that bio-spira bottle..so not your tank is not cycled)

Skipping the proper steps in this hobby tends to lead to dead fish and people leaving the hobby due to trying to rush things. It's been said here hundreds of time, but I will repeat it..NOTHING good happens fsast in this hobby :(
 

marrone

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I've never used bio-spira but I have used Nitrex on my tanks for decades and it works really well. Nitrex is more like carbon, which you place in a bag in your filter, bio-spira is liquid, which you just pour into your tank. What is does is converts the Ammonia & Nitrites into Nitrates, which aren't as toxic to fish as the first two are. This lets you stock your tank right away with fish. In time your bacteria/biology filtration will build up and then you wouldn't need to use the product. The product will last for 6 months and it works very well. What you'll find is that it will throw the test readings off on ammonia and nitrites, so it's really not a good thing to test.

Because these products turn ammonia and nitrites into nitrates they're usually not a good think to use when starting a reef tank, but they do work really well on FO or FOWLR tanks. It actually is like working with a safe net.
 

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