Non rr tanks
- Thread starter thirty6
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- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
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I'll try again. What's negative of using overflow box on non rr tank?
- Location
- NY
- Location
- Wheatley Heights, NY (long island)
Noise Also.
I used an overflow box on a previous tank.. never had a problem with losing siphon at all. Would one say that it happens to everyone that has an overflow box... highly unlikely. I say it's more of the luck of the draw that it happens to one person... then they tell two friends... and they tell two friends... then now it's 1400 people past removed... but those people down the line say that I have a friend.... blah blah.
I will say however... that yes... you will get a lot of noise.
and that is from experience.
I will say however... that yes... you will get a lot of noise.
and that is from experience.
I couldnt tell you about a glass holes kit as I don't have one... but I do have a drilled tank which is quiet, but it's all about the plumbing which will cause noise.
If you plumb incorrectly, you can introduce air into the system which causes back ups in the plumbing and you get the gurgling sounds. This is caused by water fighting against pockets of air in the plumbing.
If you plumb incorrectly, you can introduce air into the system which causes back ups in the plumbing and you get the gurgling sounds. This is caused by water fighting against pockets of air in the plumbing.
Last night i picked up a larger tank, stand, canopy , and t5 lights. the tank is not predrilled and i would like to use a sump if possible:
here the question, what to do.
glass holes kit
coast to coast overflow, no idea how to find this or is it something that you fabricate
some other version of diy overflow that i am unaware of. i am pretty sure i saw a tank on here that someone drilled bulkheads into rear wall and used elbows inside the tank, but i dont recall when or where i saw it
i am not looking to keep sps, some nice fish, inverts, and slowly fill with coral but really nothing insane as i am more interested in the fish (im sure other people were the same way) so i would be interested to see whats available as my options, thanks in advance
here the question, what to do.
glass holes kit
coast to coast overflow, no idea how to find this or is it something that you fabricate
some other version of diy overflow that i am unaware of. i am pretty sure i saw a tank on here that someone drilled bulkheads into rear wall and used elbows inside the tank, but i dont recall when or where i saw it
i am not looking to keep sps, some nice fish, inverts, and slowly fill with coral but really nothing insane as i am more interested in the fish (im sure other people were the same way) so i would be interested to see whats available as my options, thanks in advance
- Location
- Elizabeth, NJ
Glassholes.com has some pretty nice drill kits that's I've used myself, very quiet too. And saves a lot of space. I've drilled a 40,30, and 75 tanks with one drill bit with no problems.
I used an overflow box on a previous tank.. never had a problem with losing siphon at all. Would one say that it happens to everyone that has an overflow box... highly unlikely. I say it's more of the luck of the draw that it happens to one person... then they tell two friends... and they tell two friends... then now it's 1400 people past removed... but those people down the line say that I have a friend.... blah blah.
I will say however... that yes... you will get a lot of noise.
and that is from experience.
I agree with skene's comment.
I'm running a nano life-reef overflow and it's ok but it is noisy from time to time. I haven't lost siphon but if you wanted to provide some backup you could install float switches so your return pump shuts off in case the water level in your main display increases or your water level in your sump decreases.
With respect to the glass-holes overflow box mine ran very quiet but, as previously mentioned, it depends on how your plumbing is setup. You can play around with adjusting the airline from the elbow to quiet down the system.
Have the tank drilled if you can.
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- Location
- South Hackensack, NJ
The size of the returns all depends on the make & model of the return pump. Are you going for slow flow or high flow and how many returns do you want? With (2) 2" drains, you can go pretty damn big but I'd ask Glassholes how many GPH they suggest so that your overflow stays quiet. If you max out those drains (which is unlikely) you will make for a noisy tank anyway if the pump is too big.
Once you know how many GPH you need to be "returned" into the tank, than google up the pump your considering along with the words "pump chart" or "pump curve" and find the diagram/graph that tells you how many GPH you'll have with 4ft of rise. If you're using "elbows" than you may have to account for them as well as any other accessories (like a chiller) that will affect your GPH.
http://www.saltycritter.com/pumps/mag-drive.htm
Example: 2400gph Mag 24 pump chart @ 4ft of rise you'll be at about 1900GPH and thru a chiller (most account for 6ft of head loss) which will equal 10ft of rise which is only good for 850GPH all the way down from the original 2400GPH which can probably be handled by a 3/4 single return but probably isn't the best choice with all of that lost GPH.
Blueline = 1900gph @ 0ft.
=1860 @ 4 ft.
=1740 @ 10ft.
If you need 1740GPH approx. then this is a better choice.
If you don't need a pressure pump than look at Waterblasters or Reeflo pumps but make sure you read the performance chart so that you choose the right pump for what Glassholes suggests the overflow is rated for.
I like the idea of using a pressure rated pump with penductors which create lots of flow but pressure rated pumps can be power hungry.
Once you know how many GPH you need to be "returned" into the tank, than google up the pump your considering along with the words "pump chart" or "pump curve" and find the diagram/graph that tells you how many GPH you'll have with 4ft of rise. If you're using "elbows" than you may have to account for them as well as any other accessories (like a chiller) that will affect your GPH.
http://www.saltycritter.com/pumps/mag-drive.htm
Example: 2400gph Mag 24 pump chart @ 4ft of rise you'll be at about 1900GPH and thru a chiller (most account for 6ft of head loss) which will equal 10ft of rise which is only good for 850GPH all the way down from the original 2400GPH which can probably be handled by a 3/4 single return but probably isn't the best choice with all of that lost GPH.
Blueline = 1900gph @ 0ft.
=1860 @ 4 ft.
=1740 @ 10ft.
If you need 1740GPH approx. then this is a better choice.
If you don't need a pressure pump than look at Waterblasters or Reeflo pumps but make sure you read the performance chart so that you choose the right pump for what Glassholes suggests the overflow is rated for.
I like the idea of using a pressure rated pump with penductors which create lots of flow but pressure rated pumps can be power hungry.
the overflow kit is going on a 210 (sorry i thought i put that up before)
Glass Holes suggested to run this kit at 2000 gph, i will check out the pump thing today. i was thinking reeflo, not too sure though on what pump yet
Glass Holes suggested to run this kit at 2000 gph, i will check out the pump thing today. i was thinking reeflo, not too sure though on what pump yet
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