cyno is starting to make me angry

[jhale]

I have cyno, there I said it.
It started out as a little patch and has grown.
I vacuum it up and it returns. and it's slowly spreading.

Has anyone used chemi-clean or some other chemical to fight this junk? My water is fine, except for a small amount of po4, and some high temps lately, but those are being corrected.

other than the cyno there is little nuisance algae growing. I don't mind the little hair algae there is, it's minor and might help feed something in the tank, but the cyno has got to go.

 

[triggerboy]

jhale,

I haven't used any chemicals... but I notice cyano and hair start becoming a nuisance once my bulbs have reached the end of their life cycle... I know this doesn't answer you question, but if your bulb have reached their "usable" life span... that could be the culprit.

I switched my bulbs out and within 1 week hair and cyano was gone...

Hope this helps....


Jason.

 

[rickytsui]

well i had cuano in my 46g (frag tank) i just turn off the light for 3 days and it was gone and i havnt have any cyano snice

 

[Deanos]

Originally posted by triggerboy:
I switched my bulbs out and within 1 week hair and cyano was gone...

Same here on my 10g nano which was about 1 year old. I was about to buy some Red Slime Remover too. >PHEW<

 

[FastUno]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=500934

 

[ctxmonitor]

I think Jhale just got those bulb in the last few month when he started his tank.

 

[marrone]

Jhale

Chemi-clean works very well.

It seems every once and a while everyone seems to get cyano in their tank just out of the blue. If you do a search on RC you'll see people with tanks up for years with no problems and then all of a sudden a cyano outbreak.

 

[jhale]

okay this week has been total crap for my tank.
I'll get to the cyno in a minute.

now after taking the time and care to properly quarantine my new fish after placing them in the main tank my scopas tang has ich again. I'm totally disgusted. there was no sign of ich on the fish in QT. what the hell happened? I don't know what to do now.
do I try to pull just the scopas out, again? and qt him? there is now way i can get all the other fish out of the tank. or do i leave the scopas in and feed him tons of garlic?

as for the cyno, I'm going to nuke it with chemi-clean or one of the other treatments. I read the red slime thread on RC, I'm not waiting for my entire tank to get covered with this bacteria until I do something about it.

so this week I got a broken chiller (via ups), cyno, and ich, friggin awesome. the first two I can deal with. the ich has me scared.

 

[Vic8361]

Hey Jhonathan,
try turnning the lights off for three days before treating the tank remember to siphon out as much of the cyano first. You could always treat the tank after if it doesn't work for you. I have done this in the past with good sucsess. I have also had to dose my tank with red slime remover wich also worked very well.

Vic

[ June 10, 2005, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: Vic8361 ]

 

[House of Laughter]

JH,

No matter what you do to treat Ich, it will always remain present in the fish's gills etc,

The reason it comes out is stress - find that and cure that and the ich will go go dormant.

Also, ich reproduces in light, that can cure your cyano and ich (to an extent)

House

 

[jhale]

house after doing a lot of reading I don't think ich is always lives in the fish. it does have a life cycle and will die out if no fish are present in the tank. as for the fish, if there is ich in the tank and it does not succeed in killing the fish after 11 months the ich is supposed to die off by itself. as each generation is hatched they get weaker and weaker till the ich just disappear on their own.
I qt'ed my tank once for eight weeks which should have killed all the ich in the display. I did not see any evidence of ich on the fish while in QT.
Now with the new additions I did QT them as well for four weeks,and never saw any signs of ich on them. perhaps one could have had one spot that I missed somehow and ended up multiplying in the display. the only fish that has the ich attached to them now is the scopas tang. of course like you said the ich attack the fishes gills so that's how I might have missed them.
Too late now but if I add fish in the future I will treat them as if they all have ich unless they are coming from someone's tank that is ich free. I hope this ich will die out. I'm going to feed the fish garlic, which does seem to help in some way.
any other reef safe ways to fight ich that people have tried?

 

[House of Laughter]

Greenex works wonders, but will kill your clams if dosed incorrectly. It also will turn your silicone blueish green.

hyposalinity seems to also work well, and of course there is copper treatment.

House

 

[jhale]

those are not quite reef safe but thanks.

 

[aaron]

I got a big dose of cyano which seemed to go away when i started to buffer my tank properly. (may have just been a coincidence but it seemed to work for me, hows your calcium/ hardness? ). As far as ich goes in my opinion the only thing that really works is copper and fresh water baths. I just give the fish a rinse in copper free water before returning them to the tank. All those reef frendly treatments never seemed to work for me.
Good luck with it
Aaron

 

[jhale]

both the ca and alk are okay. the alk dropped a little bit once and the temp went into the low 80's maybe that could have started it.

the problem with the ich is getting the fish out to treat them.
without removing all the rock from one side it's just not going to happen. maybe a fish trap I never tried that. I also have the problem of not being able to set up a QT tank until the weather cools off. I only have one chiller and do not want to buy another one for the QT. without the chiller the fish in the QT would die.

 

[ShaunW]

Jonathan, have you considered doing nothing for the ich? In many cases, from my own experience, ich seems to go away if the fish are happy and not stressed.

Many years ago I had ich on my fish, I did nothing except have my tank at a salinity of 1.020 for a couple of weeks (but back then I didn't keep SPS, so I don't know if that would work for me now? ).

It almost seems like fish's natural immune systems are able to beat ich if they don't have any other factors stressing them out or weakening them.

[ June 13, 2005, 02:33 PM: Message edited by: solbby ]

 

[nanoreefer22]

It seems weird that ich would always be in the water. Never thought it was like that. Just keeping everything stable can prevent ich in other words?

 

[jhale]

kris ich is not always in the water.

Shaun I'm taking a less aggressive approach to dealing with the ich this time around. I'm feeding garlic, can't hurt. And I'm watching the other fish closely. So far it's just the scopas that visibly shows ich.

 

[ShaunW]

Originally posted by nanoreefer22:
It seems weird that ich would always be in the water. Never thought it was like that. Just keeping everything stable can prevent ich in other words?

In my experience it certainly helps, however, I have never had an extreme case of ich before.

Hyposalinity also helps.

 

[jhale]

for hypo to work you have to drop the salinity down to 1.009.
this will kill most things other than fish, so unless you have a fo tank or a qt set up hypo can't be used for our reef tanks.