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duke62

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So i am seeing MANY people breeding these fish and it looks like there are more "fashionable" clowns then regular clowns these days. WHY ARE THEY SO EXPENSIVE!!!!! If they are being breed by the thousands i cant seem to figure out why they are so damn expensive. Is it because there color? It cant be because they are rare because im seeing them everywhere. Im not looking to buy them personally i think they are ugly as sin but im sure other people are wondering the same as me
 

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Im just happy thats one more fish in mosy peoples tanks that is not wild caught. thats the big win.

In the past to make any $ or break even you have to breed A.Ocellaris since that mature faster. A.Percula takes twice as long to go to market. These Variant make it possible to make a few bucks on longer maturing fish.

since more and more clowns are being captive reared in the past 5 years mile stone are reached Like Latz and MC's I hope that people start to appreciate them soon and that Captive breeding of them spreads also.
 

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Just idiots paying those prices. If you pay it they will continue at that price.

If you have the money to spend for it, why not ? Doesn't mean we're idiots:wink1:

Also back to the original question...the "clownfish business" is unique. I'm no expert on clownfish breeding, but obviously it is clear that every mark, every dot, every line, every "mistaken design" is of high value, and thats perfectly understandable. Someone can go mainstream and just get regular false percs, or someone might want something original and unique like misbars, picassos, etc. Plus the fact that most are captive bred designer clowns. That also adds to cost

Some people drive fords, some people drive ferraris....it really comes down to what you want and what you wanna spend.
 
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Im just happy thats one more fish in mosy peoples tanks that is not wild caught. thats the big win.

+1 This is very important and it also has led to other fish being captive bred too. Unfortunately a lot of Clowns get culled because they don't match up to specs. So the high prices that these Clowns go for help fuel the industry but if they don't match up, they lead to more deaths.
 
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duke62

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If you have the money to spend for it, why not ? Doesn't mean we're idiots:wink1:

Also back to the original question...the "clownfish business" is unique. I'm no expert on clownfish breeding, but obviously it is clear that every mark, every dot, every line, every "mistaken design" is of high value, and thats perfectly understandable. Someone can go mainstream and just get regular false percs, or someone might want something original and unique like misbars, picassos, etc. Plus the fact that most are captive bred designer clowns. That also adds to cost

Some people drive fords, some people drive ferraris....it really comes down to what you want and what you wanna spend.
Ok you cant compare a fish to a ferrari its not even a good analogy. Ferraris are built machines from the finest materials and option available and a designer clown is a fish breed the same way ALL other clowns are bred. Nothing different. Its ridiculous the price for these ugly fish and everytime i see them the first thing that pops in my mind is WHY. I can understand the higher prices for a species that are rare but these things are everywhere. And they look like unhealthy clown fish i dont understand the draw. Im sure if they were 10 dollar fish people wouldnt buy them but since they are expensive i guess people want to say they have them and its a status thing i guess?
 

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Yea there is no comparison of a Ford to a Ferrari. It's just the ones that were born that way, and they do selective breeding and end up breeding brothers and sisters. So you end up paying for redneck fish that have mutated genes.
 

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Also these aren't like Black tangs! Gem tangs or even Interupptus angels. Those fish cost more because they are actual rare, caught in the wild, and need to be shipped half way around the world. The clowns are bred in the thousands and there are always new names for a clown that looks slightly different.
 

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It's no different than what you see with Discus, Angel Fish and a bunch of other freshwater fish. They just breed them to come up with different strains, slap a name on them, and then sell them for more money. The thing is in most case they're not always the healthiest fish and usually lead to problems down the line.
 

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As for the cost, well that's basically the price being controlled by new variations and names, coupled with slow releases. It's a good marketing strategy, as people just love to jump at new things or love to be the first to have something, just look at Iphones. Once they sell the first batch for a lot of money you then start to see discounts, then when the next "new' thing comes out even more discounts are to be found. Just go to any PetCo you can find Picasso and other Clowns for cheap, where not to long ago they were selling for a fortune.

Remember, people love rare things, even if the rare thing isn't even pretty or the regular one is better looking.
 
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The thing with designer clowns that i cant comprehend is that breeders use markings and positional bars to categorize them into classes and the majority of consumers purchasing them haven't the slightest clue what they are buying. Its got a mark near its eye! 500$! I can't see anyone truthfully being fascinated by them as much as an actual breeder to pay the high prices they are asking.

To each his own.



Consumers control the market and the consumers are paying out the butt for them.


They will continuously drop in price until the next " new " thing comes along
 
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I personaly love designer clowns ,I like their paterns and that they are diffrent,n yes a single marking on there face would add price is just the the uniqueness of the paterns n colors ,to each its own

You have people buying watermelon chalice le tyree bla,hla,blah, for 450$ 1/2" is that retarded? No
Red dragon sps ,what's the lineage ? No lineage 90$ for 1"
Red dragon Joe blow lineage 450$ only two left n people spend on what they like

Why people buy expensive le corals? Not many people have them.
Colors etc... Same with clownfish
 

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It's the same with anything..like eazy al said with corals because it's a tyree or jason fox are much more money. Personally I like the designer clowns as well. I had the black australian darwins because they were different. Who wants regular boring clownfish? I happen to think snowflakes are beautiful and even nicer the black ice line..basically a black snowflake. The platinums are really nice looking too. I don't think of them as mutants I think of them as interesting and cool. People always want to have cool stuff so why not? As we all know this is an addictive hobby and we all tend to get sucked into it wanting more and more no matter if it's a new cool clown or a chalice or new zoa whatever it is we enjoy it and that's the point. I'm sure if anyone here made their own "mutant" clownfish or discovered a new fish or coral you would want to put a high price tag on it and name it whatever you want too so let's not be hypocritical.
 

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+1.

I don't think designer clowns are ugly but apart from looks I do think some are overpriced. However, the same goes for corals.. I see some zoas going for like $30 or more for one polyp..some people buy them for the colors and because zoas are their thing. Lots of people exploit the coral market driving the prices up.
Same with clown fish..

I don't disagree with the fact that some clowns are way overpriced but its the same for many other things in this hobby...
It comes down to taste and budget..

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duke62

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It's the same with anything..like eazy al said with corals because it's a tyree or jason fox are much more money. Personally I like the designer clowns as well. I had the black australian darwins because they were different. Who wants regular boring clownfish? I happen to think snowflakes are beautiful and even nicer the black ice line..basically a black snowflake. The platinums are really nice looking too. I don't think of them as mutants I think of them as interesting and cool. People always want to have cool stuff so why not? As we all know this is an addictive hobby and we all tend to get sucked into it wanting more and more no matter if it's a new cool clown or a chalice or new zoa whatever it is we enjoy it and that's the point. I'm sure if anyone here made their own "mutant" clownfish or discovered a new fish or coral you would want to put a high price tag on it and name it whatever you want too so let's not be hypocritical.
I am not being hypocritical at all. I for one still pride myself on not spending anymore then 40 dollars a frag and having a beautiful tank. I wait for guys who spend that much to grow there corals out and i get that expensive vendor corals for 1/3 of the price. I also wont spend more then 60 dollars on any fish. Not even a mutant looking ugly over priced fish. When i buy JF i get them at the swap and usually wait till 1/2 hour before the event is over and then pick what i want for 25 a frag :)
 

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Same thing as a pug or a great dane or a golden retriever or the genetic mess that most English bulldogs are.. yet people accept them as "normal"
 

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