Fashion clown fish

[Aqua Pro Builder]

Hey you guys figure out gene pool. Is that why you shouldn't marry your sister or first cousin. We are all going to look like fat lip percula.:splitspin

Wait, we love Jolie though :inlove:

 

[RARECLOWNSNJ]

Wingo for the WIN!!!!!!

 

[shookONES]

I've got an affinity for anything different. Naturally, the unusual tends to come with a higher price tag. I'm okay with that.

 

[duke62]

Its not unusual if there is thousands on the market today You can walk into any LFS now adays and see the same clowns you call rare

 

[TRIGGERMAN]

its all about demand, if theirs a big demand theirs a big price. just like a vortech, tunz or koralia they all move water. but people are willing to pay $465 for a vortech, i would like to see the profit margin. they are of great quality but you can buy 8 koralia's for that price. but we feel we have to have what the jone's have. for the clowns I'm sure it takes time and money to breed designer clowns so i would think they cost more than wild caught but i think $150 and up is a lot of money. its all in the eye of the beholder. so if want it then buy it, cause your not taking it with you.

EXACTLY you guys are talking about clown prices, yet have no problem buying a vortech..what's so special about a vortech that it needs to cost so much? Yet everyone buys them. It can pulse? Who cares! At least a koralia or tunze you can change the direction it points and have some decent flow. Sorry but my Koralia Evo BLOWS AWAY my MP 10.

This stupid debate can go one forever really we can talk about $100 shirts like someone said..remember Ed Hardy? People were paying OVER 100 for a shirt and millions of them were sold. We can talk about furbies,beanie babies and tickle me elmo while we are at it. How bout sports cards? Action figures? Comic books? Pogs? Pokemon? How bout Jordan sneakers? I think 5 grand is insane for a pair of shoes but go look on ebay and see how many shoes there is for several thousand dollars, visit flight club in the city same thing. People wait on line for 3 days to get shoes! ETC ETC It's COLLECTIBLE, it's HOT that's the way the world works gentlemen! If things like that didn't happen imagine what unemployment would be like in this country? People wanting things and other people buying them is what keeps this world functioning as a whole. Is someone an idiot for paying 500 for a furby or tickle me elmo or a card w/ a piece of someone's jersey on it? Maybe but in the end it doesn't matter because people will do what they want to do. You don't breed 2 clowns and get 1000 premium or grade A snowflakes there is a few good ones and a bunch of regular or plain ones and those are cheaper and like wingo said and from what I have heard it isn't easy to raise clowns as many do not survive to see the juvenile stage. It also depends where you get the clowns from maybe they are NOT inbred..wouldn't you rather pay more money knowing they are going to be healthy? Also not being wild caught is better and easier to adapt to tank living than a fish coming from the ocean.

People say we don't see this much in nature..well IMAGINE how many animals get EATEN every single minute. We don't know what goes on in nature but I can assure you that millions of baby fish of all types are eaten every day so who knows what they would have been. There are so many predators of fish and corals it would blow our minds if we really knew what was out there and what was killed before we could know it existed.

 

[JonnyJ]

Im so lost.

On another note please explain how a koralia Evo blows out a vortech.

 

[noelskii]

Im so lost.

On another note please explain how a koralia Evo blows out a vortech.

Vortech MP10 =$235, Koralia Evo =$50 = BLOWOUT! :lol_large

 

[duke62]

Ok vortech made from the finest materials,fully programmable,great warranty,overhead for warehouse,paying employees,research and shipping. Ferrarris made from the best materials,engine,overhead,shipping,engineers. Fashion clowns put in a tank they breed you raise the fry probably flush the ones that look like regular clowns because you only can sell them for 5 bucks a fish then sell the mutant ones for 250 a piece. Clowns lay eggs every week and most people who raise clowns have hook ups for the rotifers and phyto i know i can have a hook up with one phone call. Most hybrids do not come from the wild they are tank bred. Once you have all the equipment (which dont cost alot) to raise the fry its just about taking the eggs out and keeping the food in the bottles not to hard to do and its usually one guy in his basement doing this not a whole team of employees

 

[Raul]

I personally like the look of a platinum or a picasso. Thats why I own them. Not because of what anyone else thinks.. To each their own..

You guys think clown "mutants" are expensive? You should google what most variants of ball pythons cost.. Its all about what people are willing to spend ..

 

[duke62]

Again the ball pythons have such a small market and for every 1000 pythons there is 1 mutated one. And they are not in every pet shop you walk into. I go to pet stores and there are designer clowns.They are not in abundance. and they non mutated pythons are sold not removed

 

[Raul]

Again the ball pythons have such a small market and for every 1000 pythons there is 1 mutated one. And they are not in every pet shop you walk into. I go to pet stores and there are designer clowns.They are not in abundance. and they non mutated pythons are sold not removed[/QUOTE

Take it from someone who breeds them the market is big and there are more ball python mutations than clown fish mutations.. petshops do have them but not around here. I know of one specific shop in L.I thats sells them but it easier to sell them online than in a shop...

 

[duke62]

there might be more mutations but not as many snakes as clown fish

 

[Raul]

Ok so puppies then. Plenty of morkies, cockapoos, puggles, ect ect (mutts) that are $1000+. How ahout the purebred ones? Genetic disasters..

Again these clowns are worth what people are willing to pay.. same as with everything else...

 

[edd]

your not going to see python mutations in pet stores, most people walking in their are not looking to spend $2000.-3000. people looking to spend that much go directly to a breeder. i have been to plenty of reptile shows and you buy direct some times with parents on site
and plenty pythons. with that kind of money theirs no room for middle man boosting prices.

 

[MIKE NY]

...and to think years ago those mutations were considered trash fish and either destroyed or weren't worth much...now they have exotic names and command heavy price tags....not being paid by me.

 

[edd]

...and to think years ago those mutations were considered trash fish and either destroyed or weren't worth much...now they have exotic names and command heavy price tags....not being paid by me.

yea just like labradoodles, when i was a kid they were called mutts, now their 1500 hundred dollar puppies. but to each his own, you want it then buy it. don't worry about other peoples opinions

 

[duke62]

This isnt a opinion thread its a WHY thread. They are ugly,live shorter lives,fish that dont have the mutant gene are thrown away because there is no profit and they are expensive for a deformation.

 

[Raul]

The why is because some people like them better than the normals and are willing to pay more to own them.

They are ugly to some ...
There is no study that shows they live shorter or longer. Having a different paint job doesnt make you weak .. in fact people on this thread have shown adult wild caught picassos.

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

Response in RED

This isnt a opinion thread its a WHY thread. They are ugly(in your opinion. But to the eyes of the beholder, some love them. Before there is a term designer clowns, I already like to collect all the ones with crazy pattern.),live shorter lives(no one knows for sure, some designer clowns are already like 7 yrs old) ,fish that dont have the mutant gene are thrown away because there is no profit and they are expensive for a deformation(this is an assumption also, because in practice, commercial breeders DO NOT curb traditional looking ones, we just sell them cheaper to balance the supply demand curve. May be some home individual breeders do that for not able to to care for too many fish but so far I have not heard anyone doing that. I have only heard breeder-wanna-be keep every single fish-even though that means 2 3 regular looking fish, that they can raise as a trophy type of thing.)

Note: Skin pattern change does not necessarily mean weaker gene. It just mean color pattern change. Like human beings, decadents of a pair of different skin colored parents does not mean weaker gene. It only means they are different. If fact, many cultures claims a human being mix usually produce smarter kids.

Many people confuse the weaker gene issue with the visual pattern change. The weaker gene issue comes from inbreed-that even if the are traditional looking, they can also have the weaker gene issue. It's just how well a breeder can diversify the gene pool. Good resourceful breeders can constantly infuse gene pool form other country's breeders.

 

[thirty5]

Lets all remember that we all came from Adam and Eve, (if you believe that) so we are all inbred mutants!