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I'm glad you read the article we recently published in Reefs Magazine --however, you need to read carefully:

" It is possible that well-meaning hobbyists could be over-lighting their aquaria. If we link the rate of photosynthesis to the coral?s growth rate, it is also possible that the effort to grow corals could be slowed (this especially important to coral farmers!). In addition, associated expenses (electrical usage, cooling, etc.) are needlessly high. An investment in a relatively inexpensive quantum (PAR) meter (such as those made and sold by Apogee Instruments, Logan, Utah) might be a wise investment."

Please note Dana's very careful use of the word possible This is one study, of one coral, in one location that collected data that suggests a possible counter-intuitive implication for lighting our systems. While my personal experience leads me to believe that we do often over light our systems --i.e. a 250W halide might do as well or better than a 400w halide in many applications, it is a VERY big leap to assume that we routinely over-light our tanks and that a radical re-orientation of the intensities and time frames that we provide is in order.

Regarding the Pacific Sun fixture, I have no input to provide other than to note that when you say it "blows away" other lights I assume you mean in measured PAR which kind of runs contrary in importance to argument I think you are trying to make.
 
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Moneymaks24

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Blows away may not have been the right words all these high end lights are good. However I was looking for full-spectrum and controllability. And I'm always trying to not get on the led bandwagon aka eccotech. Just because they have good marketing don't make them the lights. I run my PAC sun at 10% an for me it's still to strong while corals are loving it.
 
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I can't even imagine running 400w mh in the summer. And $250 a year bulb replacement I'm sorry but that makes little sense to me when everyone knows LEDs are the natural profession in the hobby.
 
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Full spec. Control by iPhone android Mac pc . Powerful enough to keep any coral, and the most user friendly customization out of all fixtures also Sleek look and great customer service what can you not like about these lights I'm not sure but that's just me I guess.
 

greg 45

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Randy the par on my pacific suns was 350 // nine inches under the lamp not even in the water. At a depth of 16 inches it wasen't even 50 with a apogee meter that I purchased to figure what was up with the pacific suns other than burnt out lenses on the uv in less than a year. What percentage and time on / off schedule are you running the Fathom leds that you have. At this time mine are 16 inches over the tank and all the light is going into the water not the room anemones are getting bigger ,they are mertens ,hadoni ang giganteas.I am only at 50% to get acclimated.
I am no professional at this but I would give one of my lamps to Sanjay to test they are usless to me. Also to have another opinion .
 
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I posted par readings for all 4 lights no need to debate this it's obvious numbers don't lie.
 

greg 45

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Ok thanks for verifying that my lamp is not even close to that.
So huston there is a problem with my lamps that they wont admit to
did you just take this reading please let me know or did you read it some where not trying to sound offensive








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Moneymaks24

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I posted a link w all the numbers a few posts back check it out its not me taking the readings
 
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Ill be the first to say that if u don't care about full spectrum( not saying its better just seems newer technology for LEDs). Then vega color is the way to go but if u do then its either Mitras or triton or radion pro out of which the triton is the least expensive. I had a $900 budget and instead of spending 400 on mp10 and 600 on Vegas I went with a $70 wp25 and a $800 led so I still "saved"money and got IMO a better light.
 
I don't get what the deep hate on Pacific Sun is, I love mine and even though they're not the Tritons they're still pac sun and from what I've seen some of the most advanced LEDs considering they had technology of todays competitors 4-5 years ago and if that doesn't speak for itself than idk how you put faith into a company.

Not to mention, that of the higher end LEDs, from the looks of that review, they're the best bang for your buck (and before I get blown up for that sentence, note that I said HIGHER END LEDs)
 

greg 45

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I will make you a deal I hate going into Brooklyn
I will bring my lamp and a par meter or you can come here with your lamp and we can take reading together
I am a mechanic a car motor has estimated horse power did anyone take it out and prove it I like show and tell with pictures we can do it together.
I already lost money whats another toll to put out the truth that we a debating up for it . You can look at my nems and see the difference from the posted pictures
 

greg 45

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reefs4life maybe the triton is different from the metis hyperion don't know
We shure can find out just sent saltwaterin Brooklyn to post a picture of the burnt out leds he post pictures for me faster than I can send them to him a big thanks
I cannot get them on mr
 

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