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What does everyone use for silicone? Went to home depot and lowes and no one sells the aquarium brand anymore which is what i always use and the LFS sell them for ALOT of money. I checked 4 by me
Silicone ?
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HD carries the GE 100% silicone that's what I use and cheaper than the Aquarium stuff
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Mike i was told that GE has put a chemical in the silicone now that is not good for our tanks?
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I've been using the GE 100% silicone for years and never had any problems. I just used it recently on my sump for the 125. It's sooo much cheaper than the aquarium stuff and it's the same sh*t
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Got a picture of it? There seems to be many 100% silicone from GE
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I'm not a pro doing sumps and aquariums but I been using this silicone with no reported issues.
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Marineland silicone
usually the good ones is the one smalls like Vinegar. But i find this on net , "Be careful asking for and listening to opinions on something that is a factual topic... not all opinions are formulated on accurate input/information or made after thorough research...
GE I silicone adheres to glass better than GE II... compare the packaging for verification on that one...
There is a rumor which appears to be true, that All Glass used GE I Silicone to make their tanks and they repackaged it and sold it under their own label for an exaggerated price.
GE lists their silicone as "not safe for aquariums" to avoid liability, yet it is likely not every customer service representative is aware of that and the ones who are surely wouldn't admit it to a caller.
GE (and most if not all other brands) use an ammonia based additive in their kitchen and bath silicones. The 'bioseal' contained by GE II is NOT the same ammonia based additive.
GE I and GE II use different curing methods/agents. GE I releases harsher chemicals during curing which is why they developed GE II. But GE I is a superior product which is why both remain on the market. The curing method of GE II leaves the product somewhat mold/mildew resistent, which is why it is listed as "bioseal'.
100% silicone does not mean 100% silicone. It means there are no other pastes, glues, adhesives, etc contained. They are still allowed to add coloring agents, mold/mildew inhibitors, curing agents, etc, etc, etc and still list it as 100% silicone. If not how would they change the color?
There is at least one ingredient in GE II that has been proven to have adverse effects on the reproductive process in animals. It is commonly suspected that this ingredient is in such small quantities that the effect is null.
In conclusion, I suggest using GE I over GE II... but if you want/need colored silicone GE II can be used...
For the record, DAP Plus series is very comparable to GE II and DAP (non plus) is very coparable to GE I...
In my opinion, the high dollar aquarium silicone is a marketing ploy and the educated consumer should not be fooled into thinking they need to pay the extra money for it." C/P.
usually the good ones is the one smalls like Vinegar. But i find this on net , "Be careful asking for and listening to opinions on something that is a factual topic... not all opinions are formulated on accurate input/information or made after thorough research...
GE I silicone adheres to glass better than GE II... compare the packaging for verification on that one...
There is a rumor which appears to be true, that All Glass used GE I Silicone to make their tanks and they repackaged it and sold it under their own label for an exaggerated price.
GE lists their silicone as "not safe for aquariums" to avoid liability, yet it is likely not every customer service representative is aware of that and the ones who are surely wouldn't admit it to a caller.
GE (and most if not all other brands) use an ammonia based additive in their kitchen and bath silicones. The 'bioseal' contained by GE II is NOT the same ammonia based additive.
GE I and GE II use different curing methods/agents. GE I releases harsher chemicals during curing which is why they developed GE II. But GE I is a superior product which is why both remain on the market. The curing method of GE II leaves the product somewhat mold/mildew resistent, which is why it is listed as "bioseal'.
100% silicone does not mean 100% silicone. It means there are no other pastes, glues, adhesives, etc contained. They are still allowed to add coloring agents, mold/mildew inhibitors, curing agents, etc, etc, etc and still list it as 100% silicone. If not how would they change the color?
There is at least one ingredient in GE II that has been proven to have adverse effects on the reproductive process in animals. It is commonly suspected that this ingredient is in such small quantities that the effect is null.
In conclusion, I suggest using GE I over GE II... but if you want/need colored silicone GE II can be used...
For the record, DAP Plus series is very comparable to GE II and DAP (non plus) is very coparable to GE I...
In my opinion, the high dollar aquarium silicone is a marketing ploy and the educated consumer should not be fooled into thinking they need to pay the extra money for it." C/P.
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I was doing a little research and this is what I found
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WARNING: GE Silicone I and II probably no longer safe due to added mildew inhibitor
GE Silicone I and II, long used by fish- and frog-keepers and generally thought of to be aquarium safe, is probably no longer so. GE began using mildew inhibitors (Bioseal) recently in most their silicone products, even if the label says "100% silicone" and doesn't mention anything about mildew. According to an email from GE, all their silicone has trace amounts mildew inhibitors now except for the 1200.
The result? People are reporting massive fish and coral die-off. I'm sure frogs would be affected too, although perhaps not as much.
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The mildew inhibitors are petroleum distillates. The only thing that will remove them is aspiration by a skimmer (basically "undissolving" them) and big water changes. They don't stick to carbon. The silicone may also be leaching ammonia if it didn't cure long enough.
GE didn't even list the petroleum distillates in their MSDS until recently as they were a trade secret.
I'm copying and pasting
WARNING: GE Silicone I and II probably no longer safe due to added mildew inhibitor
GE Silicone I and II, long used by fish- and frog-keepers and generally thought of to be aquarium safe, is probably no longer so. GE began using mildew inhibitors (Bioseal) recently in most their silicone products, even if the label says "100% silicone" and doesn't mention anything about mildew. According to an email from GE, all their silicone has trace amounts mildew inhibitors now except for the 1200.
The result? People are reporting massive fish and coral die-off. I'm sure frogs would be affected too, although perhaps not as much.
2)
The mildew inhibitors are petroleum distillates. The only thing that will remove them is aspiration by a skimmer (basically "undissolving" them) and big water changes. They don't stick to carbon. The silicone may also be leaching ammonia if it didn't cure long enough.
GE didn't even list the petroleum distillates in their MSDS until recently as they were a trade secret.
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I think this one should be safe for aquariums
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This is my thread. People said to use GE 1. I bought and used GE 1. Days go buy and then that is posted about GE 1 ERRRRR
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I think you'll be fine man. I've always used type 1 and never had any problems. My tanks still going strong, except for lack of water changes, and the only problem I have is some cyano
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Duke I used Momentive RTV103 from Grainger. $11 a tube and the Bohemia location usually carries it. Only thing is it's Black.
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