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- Philippines
I heard that some wholeSalers keep tHeir fiSh in 1.0 salinity to prevent losses by disease?
:scratch: Is this true?
:scratch: Is this true?
1.0 Salinity... Fact or Fiction ?
- Thread starter inkblue
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ink 1.000 = Fresh water:lol2:.
They keep the salinity low so the fish can breath a little easier. Fishtown's water typically reads around 1.018. Petwarehouse's some time reads 1.018 too, but I seem to remember their numbers very a bit.
Pecan can tell you more about this since he knows and remembers stuff like this. I just take longer to acclimate new fish to my tank
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They keep the salinity low so the fish can breath a little easier. Fishtown's water typically reads around 1.018. Petwarehouse's some time reads 1.018 too, but I seem to remember their numbers very a bit.
Pecan can tell you more about this since he knows and remembers stuff like this. I just take longer to acclimate new fish to my tank
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- Location
- Forest Hills
i had a angel with 1.009. took me almost 3 days to acclimate.
- Location
- Wallingford, CT
Fishtown varies from 1.018 to 1.021, guess it depends on who's making the makeup water.
Then you have Pets Warehouse out in Copiague, LI that purposely keeps the fish only section at 1.013, sometimes even down to 1.010. If you were a high turnover fish retailer, this is a win-win situation. First, the fish are less prone to disease and they osmoregulate easier. Second, it's a huge savings on salt utilized on water changes and makeup water when you mix salt only to those low levels. While 1.010 to 1.013 will not prevent ick or flukes, it will alleviate the retailer from coppering their tanks which happens to be a widespread practice when you have a ton of fish going through your system.
Now the bad thing for us is that you need to be aware of the salinity that the fish is kept at prior to acclimation to your tank. If your running a full blown reef at 1.025 and acclimate a fish for 45 minutes from a salinity of 1.010, then your playing russian roulette.
Most fish can take an immediate or fast acclimation of .004 ppt with no problems at all but when your dealing with .015 swings, then you really need to drip acclimate for a much longer period. Some suggest 4 to 6 hours but you will run into problems with this also. Possibly not all the time but eventually it'll rear it's ugly head. When we drip acclimate for such a long period of time in a 2.5g bucket, we tend to forget about temperature and also how much the PH will drop also.
I've kept fish at 1.008 for 40+ days for hyposalinity purposes and while I find that they survive, it just doesn't seem natural. IME, fish will start to lose coloration and sometimes appetite when kept in extremely low salinity for a long period.
Ink, how's that answer?
LMAO, 1.000 ppt is what my goldfish swim in :lol2:
Then you have Pets Warehouse out in Copiague, LI that purposely keeps the fish only section at 1.013, sometimes even down to 1.010. If you were a high turnover fish retailer, this is a win-win situation. First, the fish are less prone to disease and they osmoregulate easier. Second, it's a huge savings on salt utilized on water changes and makeup water when you mix salt only to those low levels. While 1.010 to 1.013 will not prevent ick or flukes, it will alleviate the retailer from coppering their tanks which happens to be a widespread practice when you have a ton of fish going through your system.
Now the bad thing for us is that you need to be aware of the salinity that the fish is kept at prior to acclimation to your tank. If your running a full blown reef at 1.025 and acclimate a fish for 45 minutes from a salinity of 1.010, then your playing russian roulette.
Most fish can take an immediate or fast acclimation of .004 ppt with no problems at all but when your dealing with .015 swings, then you really need to drip acclimate for a much longer period. Some suggest 4 to 6 hours but you will run into problems with this also. Possibly not all the time but eventually it'll rear it's ugly head. When we drip acclimate for such a long period of time in a 2.5g bucket, we tend to forget about temperature and also how much the PH will drop also.
I've kept fish at 1.008 for 40+ days for hyposalinity purposes and while I find that they survive, it just doesn't seem natural. IME, fish will start to lose coloration and sometimes appetite when kept in extremely low salinity for a long period.
Ink, how's that answer?
LMAO, 1.000 ppt is what my goldfish swim in :lol2:
How do you guys set up your drip acclimation? The problem I always have is with the amount of water from the store, there's so little to start with. Most of the time I've got the bucket on a 45 Degree angle just the get the specimen to stay underwater.
A lot would depend on the size of the fish, but I always acclimate my livestock (all of which have been small enough) while floating the bags they came in in my tank, or pouring them out into a container and floating that (hanging off the side of the tank) in the water. This ensures that the temperature will remain identical to the tank's throughout the whole process.
- Location
- Forest Hills
ask the lfs what is the sg. if its low,make them give u more water or dont buy.TimberTDI said:
- Location
- Ossining, NY
FYI - HOF keep their fish at .0245 so that the customer doesn't have to potentialy lose the fish due to swings in salinity upon acllimation - we take a few hours to acclimate ours from the wholesaler - even the diver companies we purchase from. Warren is on point - russian roulette - don't do it.
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- The Big City
Years back when I was in Bush Gardens in Florida, they had a very large tank where they took saltwater fish and over a period of either 24 or 48 bought them down from saltwater to freshwater without any bad effect. They had to tank running for a # of years and had quite a lot of fish in it, mostly snappers.
A lot of people also drop there SG in hotter months, around 1.014-1.018, without any ill effects. Some fish don't look as colorful at the lower SG, specially Red Sea fish, but usually are fine at the lower SG.
You should be quartine all your fish and not placing them directly into you tank. If they come in with a lower SG it shouldn't be a problem to slowly acclimate them, even if you have to keep the QT at a low SG and then slow built it up over time.
A lot of people also drop there SG in hotter months, around 1.014-1.018, without any ill effects. Some fish don't look as colorful at the lower SG, specially Red Sea fish, but usually are fine at the lower SG.
You should be quartine all your fish and not placing them directly into you tank. If they come in with a lower SG it shouldn't be a problem to slowly acclimate them, even if you have to keep the QT at a low SG and then slow built it up over time.
pecan2phat said:
It is a industry standard, both of these stores are doing it right. They both import their own fish unlike any other LFS in the area that buys from wholesalers. A store that buys from a wholesaler can likely kept their salinity higher because the wholesaler already delt with some of the problems. I've bought fish from FT and found .13-.18, but I don't buy that much there. PW I see .13-19, but the reef is .24, they also have several systems for acclimation not sure what each is running at. It does kept the fish healthier is the stressed enviroment they are in for a few days or weeks until we get them home in less stress free system.
Botom line is be glad for a LFS doing it the right way.
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