ICH experts?

[FastUno]

Is there anyone who is an expert & who knows what they are talking about when it comes to ICH & quarantine/medic tanks?

I started off by using Quick Ich Cure at the recommendation of the LFS & what I managed to do was stress the HELL out of all my fish & they developed ICH instead. They appeared ICH free before I got them.

After reading & reading, I am only more confused than ever. Do you guys use the copper method in a dedicated tank & monitor the tank?

My corals are loving their home & thriving, yet my poor fish are going downhill. Heeeeelpppppp!!!!!

1) Dip them in fresh water.....NO NO NO don't dip them in fresh water since you will stress them.

2) Use the hyposalinity method.....NO NO NO don't you dare do that. You will stress them even more & kill them quicker.

 

[duromega]

1 Get a Quarantine tank with basic setup
2 Get CopperSafe (fish medication)
3 Get a UV Sterilizer

4 treat fish for 30 to 45 days (5ml per 4 gallon of water)

5 say bye to ich

 

[FastUno]

So is it really that easy? Have others tried this and does it really work?

Makes you wonder why a big chain like Petco ALWAYS has ich. Seems like they have a lot of money to lose & they can never seem to get rid of it. I would think that copper treatment would have worked for them & we would never get ich infested fish from them.

I did the following:
1) Got a quarantine tank.
2) Dedicated pump/heater to lose to chemicals.
3) Use Quick Ich Cure.

All my fish seemed worst after, 2 died, others got stressed & now it is a never ending ich battle.

 

[krazime]

that's why we dont buy it from petco. i rather pay a little bit more for a healthy fish.

 

[marrone]

Follow the link and learn:

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/pests/99516-ich.html?filter[29]=Diseases

 

[FastUno]

I ordered the fish from Petco online & they came in ICH free & so damn beautiful.

It was the QT tank & the medication that got the fish sick. I wish I had just placed the fish in the tank & not QT'd them.

Perhaps that Quick Ich Cure product is no good? This was the first time I used a QT tank. In the past I have had many fish without a QT tank & all survived just fine. Odd how a preventative measure would cause more harm and disaster.

 

[marrone]

Just because they came in looking clean doesn't mean that they weren't carrying Ich. Quick Ich Cure wouldn't have given them Ich. Ich is a parasite, so if they have Ich it either came in with them or the tank that you setup had Ich in it. It's also very possible what they died from wasn't Ich but a secondary infection, which is very common in a QT when the conditions get bad.

 

[FastUno]

I understand many fish can carry ich & look healthy. The Quick Ich Cure really hurt my angel fish & I saw their skin starting to get slightly torn & blotchy. No Ich at all, just damage from the chemicals. They started to act funny too. I knew it was time to get them out quick.

So by day 3 I removed them from the QT tank & placed them in the main tank. Then the ich came due to the stress.

Then a period where it "appeared" to go away only to come back with a vengeance some 2 weeks later, as is described by many & their life cycle progression.

 

[marrone]

Then the ich came due to the stress.

Stress has nothing to do with a fish getting Ich. Ich is a parasite, so unless it's present in the tank the fish isn't going to get Ich no matter how stressed out it is. Now a fish that is very stressed out has a much higher chance of not being able to fight the Ich off, resulting in it possibly dying from it.

 

[duromega]

PETCO doesn't allow aquatics employees to use Copper in their tanks

 

[jcdeng]

I find Seachem's cupramine to be a very safe copper treatment, all my fish responded well to it. But to get your tank to ich free, basically everything that goes in (coral, invert, macro algae), you have to quarantine them in a separate, fishless tank for 6 weeks first. This allows ich eggs that might latch on to these things die off when there is no host for them to be attach to.

With that said, you basically need 2 QT tanks, one for fish and one for corals,inverts, etc. cuz once you have use medication on the fish QT, you can't use that tank for coral QT.

Hope this helps

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

From your own description, it sounds like you have ich in your tank to begin with, but in the old days, it may not have an outbreak, probably, due to that they cannot find an easy host. When you try the QT with the medicine, your fish was stressed , making it loose it's regular coating and ability to fight the ich that is already in your tank. It's common life cycle for the ich to come back and strike another time like yours in 2 weeks unless you radicate ALL of them in your tank and the host. Be expected to loose more fish during treatment.