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vio

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Not sure WHY most of Chinese (the cheap light fix.) use 3.500 K, , Whites, nobody use this color on MH, i already replace almost 40 LEDs, in my IT 2080 Evergrow, i add Violet,Cyan, Deep red and 15.000 K white, i never see on German Light this low color White, i now 3.500 K White is very good for Algae grow ( Algae Scrubber) a good place to check the full spectrum is this.

http://orphek.com/orphek-atlantik-v2-wifi/
 
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Rob&Gab

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dang bro.. you should have ordered from Only 450$ shipped. and if you got near black Friday or any of the holidays you would of gotten it for 400$ shipped.

http://www.oceanrevivellc.com/goods.php?id=14


i never heard of this vendors site you bought from. but looks light he did his own thing with these lights and made a ton of money. i got my IT2040's from a known vendor on Reef2reef. paid a good amount fora good light.
 

lnevo

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Thats in canadian dollars and Canadian Reef Supply is one of the known vendors I've seen mentioned a lot on RC or other forums. And that post is with a 3 year warranty as well. The link is just through some search engine...
 

goisles1

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figure i would post this up here as i dont no where else i would put this deal.

i was looking on ALIEXPRESS.com and found this pretty good deal for a DIY kit. looks pretty good from my view.


here is the link for 100$ you cant beat that! and shipps free. ENjoy hope i helped some people out. ill be posting more as i find some good deals on some LEDS.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...al-reef-led-customized-design/1425672074.html

I'm 99.99% buying this in 2 weeks when they are back to work.. Add a heat sink and for aprox $140 I have a light to cover my new 55 going in my basement home office!!

I've been all over the aliexpress site looking for the best way to do this.. Was maybe just going to buy the bridgelux LEDS and deal with the drivers elsewhere.. but there is no way to come close to the price for that Kit.
 

cmantis

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You need to understand led lighting better to understand why lower kelvin. With a MH you are not mixing blue. So your MH is 14k-20k. With led you mix blue with the white so 15k white led are no bueno. You add blue and you are way over 20k. You want the red that is in the white light. It is all about the mixture of the colors. 3500k isn't bad 4000-4500 is better. At first evergrow didn't have them until I asked them to make them (they bin their own led's). I have 3500 on mine since the others were not available at the time. You really don't want anything over 8000 on an led with blues mixed in. The mixture produced will result in the appearance of 14k-20k that you desired based on ratio of blue:white.

Edit: The typical designation of Kelvin rating in reef lighting is for the 'appearance' you have to look closer at the spectrum being produced. a MH will produce a much broader spectrum then individual LED's. Hence the tendency towards "full spectrum" led layouts to try to replicate that full spread. The Kelvin rating doesn't denote that per se.
 

Rob&Gab

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This is the setup i got. from ocean revive. i have 12k whites and 7.5k whites.

Red 660nm 2pcs
Green 520nm 2pcs
Blue 470nm 11pcs
Royal Blue 450nm 18pcs
Violet 420nm 4pcs
Cool White 12000K 8pcs
Neutral White 7500K 6pcs
LED Quantity 55pcs
Dimensions 16x8.2x2.8''
Brand OceanRevive
 

goisles1

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Thanks for the details.. I still have a lot to learn..

I'm upgrading from a 45(3ft Tank) with 6xT5 bulbs to a 55 in the coming weeks due to some pending construction in my house.
I did email them and they said they can put in any combination of LEDS I would need. I believe this includes Reds, Blues, Whites and Green. Tehy mention that UV costs a little more but they can do that as well.

I will also ask if they sell 10K Whites.

Having said that.. do you think I could put together a decent 40 LED Combo ?
 

vio

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"All fluorescent and MH bulbs have a discrete spectrum, whereas sunlight has a continuous spectrum. Discrete spectrum is a result of using a discharge in mercury (and other metal) vapors, with several peaks at different wavelengths, mostly in the ultraviolet range. Phosphors on the bulb convert this radiation into narrow bands of visible light. A discrete spectrum vs. continuous is shown in Fig. 18:

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Fig. 18 Continuous (above) and discrete (below) spectrum

The gaps - wavelengths that are missing in a discrete spectrum - mean that certain tints of color cannot be correctly rendered under such illumination and, as a result, the light source will have a low color rendition index (CRI). Of course, light bulb manufacturers try to avoid deep gaps in the spectrum. Look at the spectrums of popular marine MH bulbs: BLV HIT 10000K and BLV HIT 14000K (Fig. 19).

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Fig. 19 The spectrum of Metal Halide bulbs BLV HIT 10000K (a).

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Fig. 19 The spectrum of Metal Halide bulbs BLV HIT 14000K (b).

These bulbs do not have deep gaps in their spectrum, so that the intensity at a certain wavelength would drop to zero, hence both are full-spectrum bulbs and their CRI can be determined. At the same time, they exhibit clear discrete peaks, meaning that when using these bulbs precise color rendition cannot be achieved. Note that bulbs with different CCT: 10,000 Kelvin - 14,000 Kelvin are used in this example. Their main difference is in the significant portion of 400-440nm radiation in the second bulb, whereas the 460nm peak is missing. This is logical and clear: the higher the temperature of an absolutely black body, the more its spectrum would shift into the short wavelength region. Since the 400-450nm range is most important for a reef aquarium, and because, in order to attract the customer, manufacturers often calculate the CCT to satisfy their interests, we can safely state that maximum radiation in the required range is only achieved when a CCT of approximately 20000K is declared. Have a look at the spectrum of a 400W Hamilton Metal Halide bulb with 20000K CCT (Fig. 20):

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Fig. 20 The spectrum of a 400W Hamilton Radium Metal Halide bulb with 20000K " C/P
 

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