What it is consider to be a vendor??

[Mrcrab125]

I have notice member selling and ONLY selling. Disappearing while his frags are gone and new ones grow again. 95% of post are they own sales threads.
I happen to know 1 or 2 other fine members that were not "allowed" to sell unless they become vendors.
Do u find this weird?? Nothing agains any of the guys that only sell but why the rules are not apply to every1 ??
Have u been moderated for something other are openly doing or saying??

 

[jackson6745]

Showing a pic of an encrusted mother colony in a display tank is the best way to show a recreational status. Many cannot do this?.hmmmm?

 

[tunicata]

I am going to go ahead and say that if you make 8k a year from selling frags, and mainly have fs threads, and have folks group buying from you on other sites with package deals around 5k then...maybe it would look like you are a vendor.

I mean, say I bought a coral with the intent to cut it up, keep a piece, then grew out the rest to resell at typical vendor prices would you think I was a vendor?

In this scenario I am keeping a peice in my personal tank (not the frag tank). I can also show you rows of the same coral in my frag tank to show evidence of my cut and grow process. It takes about 3 to 5 mos.

The scenario described resembles many current vendors, and some high rolling hobbyists.

I think the main diff might be income i.e if you can make at least 10k a year selling from your personal frag tank and are on multiple sites doing that same thing like it is a job then...
Sounds like some folks should pay the vendor fee which is relatively low if you're able to earn 10k a year minimum.

Also, yes, I know that sone coral pieces cost a lot and hobbyists like to recoup and funnel the money back into the hobby .
However, if you bought a 1\2 sps for 200 $ then sometime later sold 2 pieces for 180 and kept the third piece to grow out again....well dang. That's a hefty profit. That's no longer simply lowering the impact of your love for the hobby and high end coral

 

[Widdy]

Gotta love the weekly constant of "making room...", "breaking down...", "tired of these corals..." excuses.

It's like the forever "going out of business" electronic stores in Times Square. Bottom feeders.

 

[Arnaldo24]

Gotta agreed with this. I seen some members ONLY posting for sale threads here and the same threads on other sites at the same time And almost never posting in a general discussion thread for example.
This is definitely a vendor under the radar.

 

[rookie07]

I wish I had room for a frag tank... Then I'd be the best stealth vendor on here!!!
When i leave NY and have room for it.....

 

[Alexm8856]

I don't agree how do you know what's grown in members tanks are you doing monthly check ups measuring counting polyps don't think so so how can you possibly be sure

 

[Mrcrab125]

Alex u dont agreed with what specifically??

 

[Alexm8856]

I don't agree if you selling frags or whatever live stock makes you a vendor if that's the case everyone should be a vendor on the forum a lot members sale there corals here like I said there no inspections so how would you know for sure if he a vendor

 

[Mrcrab125]

I think u missing the point. Clearly we talking about members that ONLY post for sale threads. Not those that occasionally sell frags for whatever reason.
Have u notice members doing ONLY that?? If not take a better look.
Thats is what we r talking about.

 

[Alexm8856]

It doesn't matter not everyone is like that your post says what's make you a vendor it doesn't say why you not posting in general discussion or etc

 

[Mrcrab125]

Im definitely not going back and forth with what i post or what not but did u notice that YOU r the only 1 that didnt get the message?? Every1 else knew exactly what my original post is about except u
And in case u still need clarification we talking about people that ONLY sales and in big quantities. Here and other forums!!!
You should read every post before throwing your 2c.

 

[Alexm8856]

Don't get MADD it's my opinion you jumping your topic which says what makes you a vendor it doesn't say in the rules you have to post in other forums
And if you just post in forsale thread you a vendor

 

[Arnaldo24]

I think mrcrab is trying to say is
If u ONLY sell frags here n other forums u taking this as a way to make a living. Like tunicata said 8k +. That makes u a vendor. Not a hobbyist trying to make some money for supply and/or livestock
Every1 including my self have sold something and that technically makes u a vendor cuz u selling but definitely dont put u in a vendor status here on MR
On the other hand those that do it for a living or to benefit other than as a hobby should be consider as vendors.

 

[Alexm8856]

There a lot of people doing that here

 

[Arnaldo24]

Exactly they only do it and then disappear and re appear for more frags.

 

[Alexm8856]

I never post corals for sale I'm a collector and my tank is going out of control

 

[Arnaldo24]

my tank is going out of control

In a good way??

 

[Alexm8856]

Yeah soon I have to setup my 500 but will cut down on over grown colonies

 

[Arati]

If the whiners in the private vendor forums had their way.. anyone who sells anything..is a vendor

For me , anyone who buys wholesale and sells for a profit or who has a tax ID based on this hobby.

I do agree the sales forums are abused , but I can also see how someone's post's can be the same dumb sales post every month and no other contribution.

I think If a real vendor is worried about some borderline vendor... then they have bigger problems .. it's a blurry line but if the people who frequent the site, support the vendors they know and trust.. then crap vendors/ users don't matter..

sadly that is not the case as any vendor can tell you, when they became a vendor sales dropped off.. buyers feel that peer to peer sales offer better deals then retail or vendor sales.

If they closed the user sales forum .. we would see a jump in vendor applications. However the way it stands now users reward stealth vendors ,, just to save a few bucks.. and the fact is that's how people want it.

My business is based off maintenance service, but I feel its only fair to register as a vendor and I want to support MR / LIRA sadly to many people only care about the bottom dollar .. vote with your wallet and this B&(( Sh!t will end.