Impatient ich removal

[dynamictank]

So i have had ich in my reef tank for a few weeks now since i added a sick fish, most of my fish have lived threw this but all the sudden last night outa no where my blue spotted box fish has ich dots on him and his eyes r cloudy I'm upset cause he is a pig n eats but his eyes r so cloudy he's not aggressively eating like he used to i wanna treat this tank
I dont have a qt tank
I already have done one freshwater bath for the box fish

So ive been looking up instant cures and found
Levamisole

Has anyone here attempted this treatment?

 

[BAD FISH]

it doesn't work you need to set up a qt asap catch all the fish and treat them all be patient there is no overnight fix

 

[Ponyboy]

Tried it didn't work so I added more and killed all my fish that was 2 years ago

 

[marrone]

You need to be careful with it, follow the treatment recommendation and do a water change right away. From what has been posted it's best not to treat the main tank with it, especially if it's a reef tank. In the end there have been mixed reviews on it killing Ich, as it does a much better job of killing flatworms.

 

[BAD FISH]

marrone no disrespect but nothing kills ich you have to treat them with copper and get them eating no matter what it takes

 

[marrone]

Bad Fish, you need to read what I posted, as I said there have been mixed reviews on it killing Ich, and is much better killing flatworms.

 

[Preerecord]

Hey you really need a QT tank but I tried Herbtana when one if my purple tangs infected my tank and all was well. It forces the fish to build a slime coat to my understanding and all my fish were already eating well so I let that run it's course and it passed. Maybe they were basically healthy except for the ich. But it worked. Try the treatment til you can setup a QT tank.

 

[BAD FISH]

tangs are more prone to ich and can have it many times and live through it without treatment but when your fish are healthy they will not get it. If other fish are showing signs its an emergency. I had ich three years ago I tried everything before I lost three fish before I acted to set up a qt. I'm not trying to argue with anyone just trying to give it to you strait

 

[marrone]

Ich is a parasite, a fish being health has nothing to do with it getting Ich or not. Many health fish get Ich, and though they maybe better able to fight it off, a lot of health fish do die from it. The same for stress. Bottom line, if you have Ich in the tank any fish can get it. You do need to QT all of your fish before placing them into your main tank, even if it means possibly losing them during the QT, better losing the one fish instead of possibly losing all of your fish.

 

[BAD FISH]

correct its a parasite. Actually all fish have ich already deep under there skin/scales its stress that brings it out. Therefore if your fish is healthy and not stressed in will not have a break out. He already stated he has multiple fish with ich. So either he can listen to you and watch his whole tank die or step up to the plate and save them

 

[BAD FISH]

that's why in a qt you do a hypo salinity, higher temp and copper in the tank. Then you can also treat other problems too and guess what now you can make sure your fish are healthy before you add them to your DT and infest the whole tank. Then you won't have to worry about it at all. Seems pretty simple to understand no?

 

[marrone]

Stress doesn't cause Ich, as your fish can be stressed out to the max and unless Ich is present in the tank they're not going to get it. And plenty of healthy non-stressed out fish get Ich, and die from it too. Ich usually is present in the gill area of the fish, and it will run its cycle regardless of the fish is stressed out or not.

So either he can listen to you and watch his whole tank die or step up to the plate and save them

Considering I've only told him to what others have said about Levamisole your comment makes absolutely no sense.

 

[b-ridge]

I have used herbtana also in the past. I used it for 10 days like they recommend. did a water change and I used it for another 10 days. worked fine for me and none of my corals or inverts were affected. Might of been they were healthy enough and just fought it off or it might just be a coincidence

 

[marrone]

that's why in a qt you do a hypo salinity, higher temp and copper in the tank. Then you can also treat other problems too and guess what now you can make sure your fish are healthy before you add them to your DT and infest the whole tank. Then you won't have to worry about it at all. Seems pretty simple to understand no?

Actually a QT is not for treatment, not do you do Hypo, copper, or run high temp in the tank. A QT is to observe the fish, give it some down time, and get it eating, and then if something comes up, treat it with the correct medication/method. On top of getting the fish ready for to be placed into your MT it's a protective method of making sure that you're protecting the fish in your MT.

 

[Kworker]

Alright

1) Set up your Quarantine tank(s)

2) Catch the fish and move them over to Quarantine Tank(s)

3) Choose your treatment, Hypo (1.008-1.010), Copper (DON'T do copper with Hypo), or Tank transfer. Depending on your method the time in QT varies, but you will have to choose how much time you want to go fallow. There is a normal distribution somebody came up with for the Ich parasites. 72 Days was 99% assurance, I am going with 77 days myself.

The best thing to do is not to rush into a treatment you are not 100% sure about, make sure you if you go Hypo you have a reliable and calibrated Refractometer. If you go with Copper make sure you have a reliable test kit. I never used Tank transfer myself but people swear by it, a quick google search will clarify how it works for you.

Don't waste your time "waiting for it to go away" because I tried that a month or so ago in my Display and it didn't work. My fish are in two QT's in Hypo treatment and haven't had any signs of ich for about two weeks now.

 

[marrone]

I have used herbtana also in the past. I used it for 10 days like they recommend. did a water change and I used it for another 10 days. worked fine for me and none of my corals or inverts were affected. Might of been they were healthy enough and just fought it off or it might just be a coincidence

A lot of these products, which don't kill the Ich but help the fish build up a resistant to the Ich, do get results sometimes, the problem is you don't really know if it's the product or just something that would of happen anyway. In the end it's probably not the product and you will probably lost more fish by using these type products then one of the other more reliable method, Copper, Hypo or the transfer Method.

 

[BAD FISH]

You need to be careful with it, follow the treatment recommendation and do a water change right away. From what has been posted it's best not to treat the main tank with it, especially if it's a reef tank. In the end there have been mixed reviews on it killing Ich, as it does a much better job of killing flatworms.

in this quote you instructed him to use it no?seems hypocritical. I'm done with arguing, I wasn't here for that. Good luck with your ich problem.

 

[marrone]

I never told him to use it, just if he did to follow the instructions and not to use it in his main tank, especially if it's a reef tank.

The OP asked about Levamisole, and just like I said, I told him what others have said about Levamisole, including the part where there have bee mixed reviews on it killing Ich. There is nothing hypocritical about what I posted, you're just not reading what I posted, especially the part about about it having mixed reviews on killing Ich.

 

[BAD FISH]

yeah you won dude congratulations