Corals can kill!
- Thread starter jhart
- Start date
If there isn't already a sticky, or if someone hasn't already suggested, maybe someone familiar with the subject can post up a sticky with pics and info on the different toxic varieties of corals...
So we can all be a little bit safer and also so no misinformation or myths spread.
So we can all be a little bit safer and also so no misinformation or myths spread.
- Location
- Nueva York
Lol, i cant tell if your joking
- Location
- NY
I just heard about this. What a terrible tragedy. All the precautions mentioned in this thread are viable measures we should all take. Unfortunately I say this after having my hands in my tanks and others today for about 3-4 hours, ungloved.
Does anybody know who this reefer was?
swimmer
Does anybody know who this reefer was?
swimmer
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
if anyone needs gloves any hunting store carries shouder lengh gloves
- Location
- Nueva York
Drs Foster and Smith carry em too
All people should carry a note in their wallet listing any illnesses, medications they're on, and allergies. Reefers MUST put down their hobby with a line or two about the remote possibility of toxin exposure or infection from their hobby.
Should you ever be ill enough to end up in an ER, and can't speak for yourself, that little note is incredibly helpful to the staff in quickly determining what might be going on, and save a lot of time in decision making. Believe me, everyone taking care of you will really appreciate that info, so they don't have to start guessing and hoping their on the right track (nothing worse than discovering drug interactions that may occur by not knowing what you might already take, let alone not knowing of any drug allergies before selecting medications for treatment). One line about SW and reef as keywords will at least go onto the list their list of possible diagnoses, and make them consider whether a marine illness might be involved. The problem is, outside of Hawaii, and some Southern CA hospitals, who may be at least somewhat familiar with toxic exposure related to marine life, including bacterial infections which a far more likely the problem than toxins, is that a large majority of ERs and staff simply don't think about marine illnesses, other than gastroenteritis, given the few cases seen, and and therefore not associate SW tank exposure as essentially the equivalent of ocean exposure.
Henry
Should you ever be ill enough to end up in an ER, and can't speak for yourself, that little note is incredibly helpful to the staff in quickly determining what might be going on, and save a lot of time in decision making. Believe me, everyone taking care of you will really appreciate that info, so they don't have to start guessing and hoping their on the right track (nothing worse than discovering drug interactions that may occur by not knowing what you might already take, let alone not knowing of any drug allergies before selecting medications for treatment). One line about SW and reef as keywords will at least go onto the list their list of possible diagnoses, and make them consider whether a marine illness might be involved. The problem is, outside of Hawaii, and some Southern CA hospitals, who may be at least somewhat familiar with toxic exposure related to marine life, including bacterial infections which a far more likely the problem than toxins, is that a large majority of ERs and staff simply don't think about marine illnesses, other than gastroenteritis, given the few cases seen, and and therefore not associate SW tank exposure as essentially the equivalent of ocean exposure.
Henry
Probably one of the most important things is gloves, eye protection, and no breaks in the skin (cuts). I can?t tell you how many times a zoo polyp or mushroom has squirted towards my face. Once I had my glasses on and it went all over the glass right in front of my eye.
Washing ones hands after using the tank is also very important, since bacterial infections from touching it are also dangerous.
So sad that someone died.
Washing ones hands after using the tank is also very important, since bacterial infections from touching it are also dangerous.
So sad that someone died.
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I was reconstructng my tank and had a poisoning insident.....
My frogspawn while being moved from a temp. location to my main tank was stressed and deflated. I had open wounds that I didnt know about untill the toxins entered my wounds.....
WHAT A B*T*H. Had to go to the doctor and what not....Took tons of anti alergic (heavy) medications.... Went away in about a week. the scares are still there after about 2 months.
Sorry cant see the actual size of my hand but will tell u that not only it hurt unexplainably, but the fever like symptoms were very warring.
No need for this to happen. Use gloves on any ocation.. Best advice....
I was reconstructng my tank and had a poisoning insident.....
My frogspawn while being moved from a temp. location to my main tank was stressed and deflated. I had open wounds that I didnt know about untill the toxins entered my wounds.....
WHAT A B*T*H. Had to go to the doctor and what not....Took tons of anti alergic (heavy) medications.... Went away in about a week. the scares are still there after about 2 months.
Sorry cant see the actual size of my hand but will tell u that not only it hurt unexplainably, but the fever like symptoms were very warring.
No need for this to happen. Use gloves on any ocation.. Best advice....
R32Brightliner
Senior Member
- Location
- Westchester, NY
Drperetz, almost looks like Mycobacterium Marinarum.
Open cuts while working with oceanic life with redness, swelling and an area that just does not seem to want to heal is typical for M. Marinarum. Treatment usually long over months and takes several antibiotics (usually ones used for Mycobacterium Tuberculum otherwise know as Tuberculosis or TB).
IF cut does not get better in a week, I would go see and ID doc (Infectious Disease specialist...)
As for toxins, you have to be careful. Use gloves you are handling a coral or have an open cut. Skin is a great barrier to infection but if it is cut, you have a break in skin integrity and infection can happen.
Wash your hands well with antibacterial soap after putting hands in tank whether it is with or without gloves. Wash in between web spaces as well. Use something like "Row, row, row your boat" or "ABCs" to make sure you wash for more than 15 seconds. Most find that if you say both two times you have had adequate time for handwashing to get effective results. A small scrub brush works especially to get under the fingernails...
Just my $0.02...
Open cuts while working with oceanic life with redness, swelling and an area that just does not seem to want to heal is typical for M. Marinarum. Treatment usually long over months and takes several antibiotics (usually ones used for Mycobacterium Tuberculum otherwise know as Tuberculosis or TB).
IF cut does not get better in a week, I would go see and ID doc (Infectious Disease specialist...)
As for toxins, you have to be careful. Use gloves you are handling a coral or have an open cut. Skin is a great barrier to infection but if it is cut, you have a break in skin integrity and infection can happen.
Wash your hands well with antibacterial soap after putting hands in tank whether it is with or without gloves. Wash in between web spaces as well. Use something like "Row, row, row your boat" or "ABCs" to make sure you wash for more than 15 seconds. Most find that if you say both two times you have had adequate time for handwashing to get effective results. A small scrub brush works especially to get under the fingernails...
Just my $0.02...
scarf_ace1981
Advanced Reefer
- Location
- San Juan, PR
gloves are for :catsmiley!
j/k. i've had several experiences that make me think twice about putting my bare hand in the tank.
1. bristleworms. i actually got one in my finger last night. i'm kinda used to it already
2. funny tingly feelings in the arm. most likely from toxins going into cuts on my hands. but nothing too serious
3. zoo and mushroom juice squirting past my face while fraggging
we should all take aaron23 as an example. he got zoo jizz in his eye and had to go to the doctor.
j/k. i've had several experiences that make me think twice about putting my bare hand in the tank.
1. bristleworms. i actually got one in my finger last night. i'm kinda used to it already
2. funny tingly feelings in the arm. most likely from toxins going into cuts on my hands. but nothing too serious
3. zoo and mushroom juice squirting past my face while fraggging
we should all take aaron23 as an example. he got zoo jizz in his eye and had to go to the doctor.
- Location
- Nueva York
Is there anywhere to get gloves locally? Id hate to spend $8 shipping on a 6 dollar item..
ok I'm going to kill my mother, when I spoke to her on the phone yesterday , I had asked her what kind of coral was it that this person was sick from , she told me it was from a polyp, and said he had pasted away ,so I posted that.
I just spoke to her now and she told me that the man had not died , and he is still in Icu and haveing difficult time breathing, But the good news is he's still alive .. I am so sorry guys that I miss led all you, but this is my moms doing, she told me that so that I would get rid of my systems , because she was nervous ..Because it was the talk of the hospital Not knowing that I'm a member of MR and that I would post it asap.. I will keep you all informed of this guys health, if I find out .. She wasnt lieing the man is in ICU.. what was my mother thinking that I would get rid of my systems Ahhh yeah RIGHt, I think not.Just for that I'm going to load my tank up with some palythoas,, Again sorry to miss lead you all
I just spoke to her now and she told me that the man had not died , and he is still in Icu and haveing difficult time breathing, But the good news is he's still alive .. I am so sorry guys that I miss led all you, but this is my moms doing, she told me that so that I would get rid of my systems , because she was nervous ..Because it was the talk of the hospital Not knowing that I'm a member of MR and that I would post it asap.. I will keep you all informed of this guys health, if I find out .. She wasnt lieing the man is in ICU.. what was my mother thinking that I would get rid of my systems Ahhh yeah RIGHt, I think not.Just for that I'm going to load my tank up with some palythoas,, Again sorry to miss lead you all
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