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toyota44

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I have just purchased the Salifert Alkalinity test kit and the instructions state that when adding the KH reagent there will be air present just below the Syringe's piston. The problem is it doesn't say how much is acceptable (sometimes I get 1ml other times I get 2ml. Does anyone have any insight on this, I want to get an accurate reading!
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Bodine

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I believe the important thing is that no mater how much air there is, just make sure you have the reagent at 1.0 or where ever you start from......then when you reach titration read the reagent endpoint....ignore air
 

tarnold

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I may be wrong, but my thought is that the air would be equal to the pippette on the end of the syringe. Then drawing in the reagent so that the plunger is to the 1ml mark will give 1ml reagent and air. The reading should then be taken at the plunger mark.
 

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Yes (as in the air sample is irrelevant)- the important part in adding any pre-mixed liquid reagent is that you add the designated liquid volume - any syringe, pipette, or metering system that uses a plunger will have an air pocket in-between the rubber stop and whatever tip would (in a lab setting) receive the dispensing needle.
What you want to look for is the meniscus of the fluid you're drawing - ignore the air, the bottom of the plunger or whatever pretty marks the manufacturer has placed on the plunger arm. The meniscus is the very top of the fluid you're drawing in - it tends to look like a little glass line on top (even curves downwards, sometimes) due to surface tension and a bit of refraction.
To be precise, the syringe is cal'd (ok, marked) such that the scale is correct when reading from the bottom of the meniscus to the bottom of the syringe tip. Note that if you use an extension tube, needle or pipette tip, this scale is no longer accurate.
Bulb-type pipettes (the plunger is in this case your fingers), even the cheap injection-molded ones usually have a scribe on the side to designate 1 ml, for example. When holding it upright, the air rises into the bulb, leaving the bottom part liquid only - it has the same result. The pricey ones (my favorite is Eppendorf) just draw up a certain volume between button pushes; you add a secial pipette tip that holds and dispenses you sample - keeps cross-contamination at a minimum.

Therefore, draw as much air as you want - as long as you're not injecting it into your arm, or your reactor sample, the reagent won't care. Any air dispensed into the sample will probably just bubble up, break the surface and dissipate, anyway (not true for the arm injection, though!)

Cheers,

Ted.
 

PJenkins

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As Tarnold said,the air trapped between the rubber gasket & the reagent should be equal to the volume of the pipette you attach to the syringe. Make sure it is tight.Follow the instructions for filling the syringe. You might try filling and emptying the syringe a couple of times to see if you get a consistent amount of reagent. You stated sometimes it varies 1ml or 2ml, I assume you meant .1ml or.2ml it should not very this much. As the instructions say you must keep the end of the pipette submerged while drawing in the reagent. Hope this helps.

cheers, Pat
 

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