Currently i have Two maroon goldstripe clownfish ( about 1 in.)and a yellow tang(2-3in.) in my 55 gallon. if i were to add a royal gramma, pearly jawfish, mandarin goby, a lawnmower blennie, and a flame angel, then would that be overcrowding, and should i have them all at once. I am asking because i am thinking about buying a package of fish, after i get some more live rock, but don't know if it would be wise. Comments or appreciated and what you think. maybe i should transfer some of the fish or what?
Overcrowding... what do you think??
- Thread starter Sol T. Waters
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bodine:
<strong>The TANG POLICE will say your tank is too small.
A mandarin dragonette needs lots of `pod growing live rock....
Overcrowded????
Depends on yout skill as an aquarist.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think "FRIENDS OF TANGS" is more appropriate, personally.
That said, and being guilty of overstocking, I would say adding a bunch of fish at once will overly tax your biological filtration, and is a very bad idea. Besides, how will you handle QT ?
<strong>The TANG POLICE will say your tank is too small.
A mandarin dragonette needs lots of `pod growing live rock....
Overcrowded????
Depends on yout skill as an aquarist.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think "FRIENDS OF TANGS" is more appropriate, personally.
That said, and being guilty of overstocking, I would say adding a bunch of fish at once will overly tax your biological filtration, and is a very bad idea. Besides, how will you handle QT ?
well tang police, what if i told you that my friend has a 30 gallon and has a sailfin tang, foxface angel (5-6 inches), and and juvy emperor angel.
But what i really need to know from EVERY one is what they think about adding them at once?
PS thanx emily and bodine for your advice.
But what i really need to know from EVERY one is what they think about adding them at once?
PS thanx emily and bodine for your advice.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sol T. Waters:
<strong>well tang police...........PS thanx emily and bodine for your advice.
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Hmmm, you only thanked Em and Bodine, does that just made me THE TANG POLICE?
I didn't even commented on tangs!
Oh, well, the heck with it. If I make comments for Naesco, some will tell me to go back and re-take the anger management class....
<strong>well tang police...........PS thanx emily and bodine for your advice.
Hmmm, you only thanked Em and Bodine, does that just made me THE TANG POLICE?
Oh, well, the heck with it. If I make comments for Naesco, some will tell me to go back and re-take the anger management class....
The tang is small enough now to be kept in your tank but will need bigger quarters as it grows out. I'd say minus the tang and mandarin, you'd have a very nice set-up with lots of color and activity. All of those fish together, regardless of size, will tax your system and be crowded. I have a 55 gallon as well. I think all 55 gallon tanks should come with a warning sticker stating "This is NOT a large tank! Do not attempt to overstock." They're just not that big a tank.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sol T. Waters:
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But what i really need to know from EVERY one is what they think about adding them at once?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think it is a whole lot of fish to be added at the same time, and that you shouldn't do it. Not only because of the jump in bio load, but territory disputes as well.
I think the tang will get too big, and as long as you know it will have to go at some point in the future, its ok (I feel the wrath of the TP!). I also think the mandarin is a bad idea for the reasons stated by others.
My tank is on the overcrowed side, I know it, and I do stuff to try to deal with it - lots of rock and swim throughs for territory surface area, lots of current, bi monthly 25% H2O changes, sump with lots of macro algae, and a thriving sand bed. The key I think has been adding the fish slowly and keeping the fish small.
How long has your tank been set up and what is the set up like.
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I am not a member of the Tang Police, but I would say that your friend has too many fish in the tank.
RR
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But what i really need to know from EVERY one is what they think about adding them at once?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think it is a whole lot of fish to be added at the same time, and that you shouldn't do it. Not only because of the jump in bio load, but territory disputes as well.
I think the tang will get too big, and as long as you know it will have to go at some point in the future, its ok (I feel the wrath of the TP!). I also think the mandarin is a bad idea for the reasons stated by others.
My tank is on the overcrowed side, I know it, and I do stuff to try to deal with it - lots of rock and swim throughs for territory surface area, lots of current, bi monthly 25% H2O changes, sump with lots of macro algae, and a thriving sand bed. The key I think has been adding the fish slowly and keeping the fish small.
How long has your tank been set up and what is the set up like.
<strong> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
I am not a member of the Tang Police, but I would say that your friend has too many fish in the tank.
RR
Posted by Sol:
well tang police, what if i told you that my friend has a 30 gallon and has a sailfin tang, foxface angel (5-6 inches), and and juvy emperor angel.
-I would say that your friend has a tank that will crash, and that you are most likely a troll!
Steve
proud member of the tang police
well tang police, what if i told you that my friend has a 30 gallon and has a sailfin tang, foxface angel (5-6 inches), and and juvy emperor angel.
-I would say that your friend has a tank that will crash, and that you are most likely a troll!
Steve
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I would say that your freind has some sereously bad Karma coming his way, and that he should be prepared to spend enternity in a matchbox with his face pushed right up against his ass.
I would say that your freind has some sereously bad Karma coming his way, and that he should be prepared to spend enternity in a matchbox with his face pushed right up against his ass.
on this same topic, i have a question for the tang police. i bought a hippo and a yellow tang in Orlando when they were babies, and have them in my 55. it's a reef tank, but all the LR is along the back and only goes half way up. both tangs are about 4" now - i've had the hippo for over 2 years and the yellow for about 1.5 years.
though they are quite happy now, it seems that in the not too distant future they will be too big for my tank. the problem is that i live in Mississippi now. if i take them back to the store they will likely spend the rest of their lives in an even smaller tank either at the store, or in the tank of whoever buys them. so that leaves me with the question of whether or not to keep them.
i won't be able to upgrade to a bigger tank for another year or two. what do you think i should do?
thx
though they are quite happy now, it seems that in the not too distant future they will be too big for my tank. the problem is that i live in Mississippi now. if i take them back to the store they will likely spend the rest of their lives in an even smaller tank either at the store, or in the tank of whoever buys them. so that leaves me with the question of whether or not to keep them.
i won't be able to upgrade to a bigger tank for another year or two. what do you think i should do?
thx
Your tank is too small for a tang and so is the buddies. If you wish to add more fish, trade in the yellow tang for them. It is wise to add one fish at a time one month apart rather than together as the potential of problems lessens.
Tang Police!!
Never heard of them but they sound like an outstanding group of reefers.
How can I join?
Damnhippo You lucky guy!
BODINE you have an outstanding tank
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Tang Police!!
Never heard of them but they sound like an outstanding group of reefers.
How can I join?
Damnhippo You lucky guy!
BODINE you have an outstanding tank
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My Yellow Tang seems perfectly happy in his 55-gallon reef, and has now for what? five - six years. I wish the tank was longer to give him swimming room. There is not enough algae for him to graze. (okay, there is way too much algae, but not the kind that he eats.) I supplement with weekly/monthly feedings of sushi nori sheets. He does not seem to be out-growing his tank. The Mandarin Goby is also happy in this tank. Once your tank is mature and thriving, you should be able to keep one if you supplement its rock picking diet with live and frozen brine shrimp.
Overcrowding depends not only on the size of the fish in the tank, but also who is in the tank. Even fish that are several times larger than Damsels and Angels can get a hard time from the pugnacious devils. The Flame Angel may have a hard time with the two Clowns. They may think that the tank is theirs. Angels can be assertive - not aggressive. With the bickering between the two, I bet that you lose one or the other eventually through stress.
Overcrowding depends not only on the size of the fish in the tank, but also who is in the tank. Even fish that are several times larger than Damsels and Angels can get a hard time from the pugnacious devils. The Flame Angel may have a hard time with the two Clowns. They may think that the tank is theirs. Angels can be assertive - not aggressive. With the bickering between the two, I bet that you lose one or the other eventually through stress.
Huz, try the marketplace and see if you can find someone with proper tank to carryon the good work you have done for the past few years for them. Another thing I would do is to persuade a friend into reefing, and let him understand the bigger the tank the better.
well thanx everyone,,,,,,i have had my tank a litte over a year and have had my two clowns for about 8 or 9 months ( had them since they were this ---------- small. Just got the yellow tang about 2 weeks ago, and seeing how long they have been in there, the clownfish aren't territorial at all, though they may as aging progresses.
But, these fish come in a package....i cant take away any of the fish, nor can they be shipped at different times, thinking about the selling back the tang thing, but it is just so PURTY, and thinking about giving the clownfish to my brother but i just feel "connected" them.
If anyone has the least bit of confidence that i can make it work then please let me know.
I have a little 15 gallon tank that now has live sand but just that ugly brown algae. it has been setup for 4-5 months. Maybe i could put some in there? i use it as my QT
But, these fish come in a package....i cant take away any of the fish, nor can they be shipped at different times, thinking about the selling back the tang thing, but it is just so PURTY, and thinking about giving the clownfish to my brother but i just feel "connected" them.
If anyone has the least bit of confidence that i can make it work then please let me know.
I have a little 15 gallon tank that now has live sand but just that ugly brown algae. it has been setup for 4-5 months. Maybe i could put some in there? i use it as my QT
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